I'm really not sure how I feel about this. I'm friends with several anti vaxers and no money in the world would make them vax, they are that against it.
I worry some kids will miss out on Kindergarten which the government has said should be universal.
I know some people are already talking about doing babysitting swaps and things like that so they can work.
I think it's going to create an underground unregulated child care and kindergarten industry.
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23-11-2015 15:03 #1
No Jab No Pay Laws pass senate
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23-11-2015 15:28 #2
I feel bad that they won't be afforded the same privileges that vaccinated children will be under this new legislation.
However, as a selfish woman who places her child's health and happiness above anything else on this planet I am irrationally and unequivocally supportive of doing anything to promote vaccination.
I understand that no money in the world will be enough to change their minds, but at least they won't be able to attend daycare and expose more children, on a regular basis, to any preventable illnesses.
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23-11-2015 15:31 #3
Oh also, I forget to mention that the bashing of people on benefits from the government spokesperson is disgraceful, disturbing and utterly abhorrent.
23-11-2015 15:47 #4
Leyonhjelm is a nutter, regard what he says in the same way you would Lambie or Hanson.
23-11-2015 15:57 #5
I am in two minds about this. I feel for the child - denied vaccinatioms from their parents, and then potentially denied child care from the state.
That being said - a close friends baby is undergoing chemo, has a very low immune system, & is unable to be vaccinated. I feel very protective of this little girls health, & would feel furious if she was passed a VPD because of an anti vaxxer parent.
I wonder if perhaps education is the answer. So many people blindly follow what they read online & have no scientific unserstanding of how vaccinations work. Or how to determine a reputable source of information for that matter. I learnt about vax's in biology in year 12, perhaps a basic science education should be compulsory. Either way, there will always be some people who refuse to believe the science and will not vaccinate. Im just not sure if withdrawing payments is the answer.
23-11-2015 16:06 #6
I agree with it. Sorry if it offends, but VPD are just that - vaccine preventable. It is grossly selfish and negligent to expose babies and the immuno-compromised in CC to serious illness because you read some blog filling your head with conspiracy theories and non factual information. If you believe *that* strongly about it, find a friend or family member to baby sit your child. Better still. Read real scientific evidence on the subject, stop playing Russian Roulette with your and my children's lives and get the vaxxes The only out-clause for me is children with a history of serious reactions or who have real medical reasons.
As to the Senator. Maybe he needs to "get over" his lifelong pension and stop having non parliamentary Australians fund his 250k a year retirement. Which ironically will be paid for by the taxes of these "little blighters"
23-11-2015 16:13 #7
I feel for the child- it is their parents making the decision.
But, overall I am happy with this. I am pro-vax, my best friend is anti-vax. She agrees that it is unfair that her choice makes people feel at risk, but she believes in her choice. So while she thinks it's unfair for her, it's fair for others- and that's just life.
23-11-2015 16:21 #8
But unvaccinated kids can attend primary school right? So banning them from kindy will just delay the issue by a year. Not sure how useful that is.
I agree with unvaccinated kids being denied access to daycare and cutting back social welfare for parents who don't vaccinate their kids.
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