delerium said earlier government after government would rather deal with the outcomes of alcoholism rather than tackle the cause.
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I think it's a whole lot of causes. I believe many families have genetic issues with addictive personalities. It's environmental - where children are not only exposed to excessive drinking but abuse, drug use, DV. I believe our country has a binge drinking culture. And I separate that from normalising alcohol bc countries in Europe have a very calm stance towards it, with people often drinking wine with dinner etc. Yet they don't have the issues we do. In other countries it's seen as something you drink that tastes good. Here in Oz alcohol is something that gets you drunk. That's an important distinction and one that statistically is proven to worsen addiction. Research shows that kids that grow up with tea totalers for parents and parents that drink heavily are far more likely to become alcoholics that kids that see Mum drink a glass of red then stop.
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05-11-2015 23:24 #215
It's never going to happen.
If people knew they would get locked up for the duration of their pregnancy no one would admit to drinking.
There are services available (where I work) for women using drugs or alcohol in pregnancy, but people have to ask for help/want help/be honest.
For the pointy end of the spectrum there is probably not a whole lot that could be done, but for social/moderate drinkers education is the key. (And not a scare campaign with awful images).
05-11-2015 23:32 #216
I think we all know that sadly. Just workshopping ideas.
05-11-2015 23:43 #217
Well, it seems like a good start would be ensuring that everyone receives the same medical advice? Is there a way to mandate that, does anyone know?
And clear, explicit advice, not advice that people can hear the way they want to or which can mean different things to different people.
I'm trying to remember but I had to sign something at my 20 weeks checkup to say that the midwife had discussed 'xyz' with me (might have been breast feeding?). I wonder whether something like that would help.
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05-11-2015 23:50 #218
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I think one of the oroblems is the midwives or OBs often ask if you smoke or drink alcohol. People then lie as they know they'll be judged. The midwife or OB moves on to the next question.
Rather than asking you I'd suggest they tell you what happens if you smoke or drink when pregnant. Set it out in simple language the risks being taken and the potential for harm to the foetus. Doesn't have to be scary or graphic. Just facts.
At least then social drinkers might stop and think about it.
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