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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    How brave of you.
    That's not playing the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Not sure. I think its a cultural thing. Tooting your own horn is not a popular part of Australian culture - rather it's seen as being knobby. Tall poppy syndrome etc. It's normalized to an extent in the US, but not Australia.
    Really?????? C'mon VP, that is a huge generalization and laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    It must be a cultural thing. As a French person I always found Australian people great at touting their own horns...
    High five.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    I'm another one who had alcohol during all my pregnancies. And soft cheese. And raw meat. And sushis.

    I know what a standard drink is (in Australia you pour wine like its water!!). And I never even had one in one sitting. Always with food too.

    Risks and benefits and all that.

    It's pretty far pushed to put us all in the same basket with the one who binged drink...
    We did air bnbs in Copenhagen and Nice this summer and their wine glasses were TINY! Even when we went out to eat the amount of wine that was served was noticeably less than what you would get in an Australian and American restaurant and I think this is where part of the problem lies and why it is safer to just advise to completely abstain.

    Eta: but as the various stories state, there is no known 'safe' amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Really?????? C'mon VP, that is a huge generalization and laughable.
    Yes. From what I've noticed from spending time in the US Americans are generally much more competitive and don't feel as much reservation about highlighting their own achievements. I've also noticed that *generally* Americans aren't as big drinkers (idiots) as Australians, are a more religious nation and are more into heir politics (which I count as a positive).

    They are just observations - not meaning to attack as I love Americans. I am more than happy to list negative traits of Aussie culture (in a separate thread) to help balance things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    so are the French!

    as a culture, Australians generally perceive themselves to be the underdog. any kind of tall poppy behavior is called out. totally the reverse of what it's like in the states where it's expected that you toot your own horn, as who else is going to do it for you. so funny all these little cultural nuances!

    now, back on topic....
    So many experts on Americans in here...Never realized Australians were so humble..😳

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    I haven't read all of this....but just wanted to let you all know that the recommendation to not drink any alcohol at all due to no known safe amounts was first published in 1981, and then again in 2005.
    I'm sorry that some did not get to make an informed decision during their pregnancies. It's not okay. I know I was definitely advised that there were no known safe amounts of alcohol during my pregnancies....and my kids were born in years earlier than years being mentioned here.
    It's the same as listeria....how many years have we known about listeria? And yet plenty of health care providers tell pregnant women not to worry, which is against the recommendation (regardless of how low the risk is, guidelines on listeria state that certain foods should be avoided).
    I am glad FAS-D is getting media attention. It's about time.

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    This thread hits a spot with me. I have a good friend who has a teenage son with a bunch of behavioral conditions - they lead a very challenging life. My friend would go and have more than one drink at the pub when pregnant - now she's (and her son) is paying for it.

    I remember at the time my friend was pregnant thinking you didn't have to be an Einstein to realise you shouldn't be doing that while pregnant. So there must have been some education out there.

    Maybe the issue isn't education as such, but rather dogged consistency in delivering that message from healthcare providers (to combat the people who think one or two won't affect them) and more support for pregnant women? (To combat women like my friend that had other things going on in their life which probably impacted their decision to drink).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    So many experts on Americans in here...Never realized Australians were so humble..😳
    You've never recognised any differences between the two cultures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    You've never recognised any differences between the two cultures?
    Of course I have but it's funny to read Aussies toot their own horn about what a humble culture they are.😉

    It also just gets tiresome having to read, fairly often, little jabs about Americans on here. I'm sure if you were on an American parenting forum and regularly saw little comments about Australians you would start to get annoyed. More often then not I bite my tongue, this time I didn't.


 

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