Easter, Christmas and Halloween are all pagan in origin.
The bible never mentions celebrating Jesus birth at all, it doesn't even give us a date. Yet his death we were instructed to commemorate and a date,was given. That being said much of easter today is pagan in origin, not christian nor anything to do with Jesus and the meaning of the occasion.
Halloween is not mentioned no but due to its origins and non biblical customs / beliefs, I would never celebrate it.
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08-11-2015 18:40 #81
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08-11-2015 18:58 #83Senior Member
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We have no idea on the date Jesus was born or died. But religion has 'taken' the idea of what was originally Pagan celebrations and tried to make it their own.
Which is why I said that the way we celebrate Christmas and Easter is not in the Bible.
Don't get me wrong - I have no issue with how anyone celebrates Christmas/Easter/Halloween. Everyone has a different belief and thats fine. Just pointing out that religious celebrations are not just based from the Bible.
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08-11-2015 19:10 #86
It's interesting as my girls attend an Anglican school which isn't very religious (they do 40 minutes a week) and their RE teacher taught them about the origins of Halloween the week leading up to Halloween. They study all different religions and beliefs though.
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Also, sorry this is off track now. On track - does anyone have pics of their kiddies/themselves dresses up?
08-11-2015 19:15 #88
All we know is that his birth was most likely sometime in October as it mentions that the Shepards were out tending to their sheep. In December in that part of the world it would of been far too cold for the flocks to even be outdoors. Also the nativity story / scene isn't accurate to what the bible says either! 😊
09-11-2015 10:02 #89
Halloween is still very big in Ireland- I remember the festivals growing up Even the churches got in on it- All Saints Day is the following day, there would be a mass on Halloween (and Nov 1st) and instead of a collection there was sweets for the kids handed out.
We don't celebrate Halloween mainly because it is H's birthday, and the kids would rather have a birthday party, than wander the neighbourhood with only 1 out of every 10 answering their knock.
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09-11-2015 14:23 #90
But March comes up as approximate birth month of John (Jesus' cousin) which helps us to see why Sept / Oct is the most likely time of Jesus birth.
Since Elizabeth (John’s mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived , we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John’s father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah. Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year.
It was during this time of temple service that Zacharias learned that he and his wife Elizabeth would have a child. After he completed his service and traveled home, Elizabeth conceived. Assuming John’s conception took place near the end of June, adding nine months brings us to the end of March as the most likely time for John’s birth. Adding another six months (the difference in ages between John and Jesus) brings us to the end of September as the likely time of Jesus’ birth.
But it's all a bit of a guess. All that's known is that it couldn't have been anywhere near the date of December 25. That was chosen as it was the holiday that pagans celebrated the birthday of the unconquered sun ( or something like that)
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