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    Quote Originally Posted by Candiceo View Post
    I'm the op - i was originally questioning if anyone here (adults) were raised without a formal education? I realise that a few parents are raising their kids this way but ideally i wanted to know the end result?
    my mother was. well to a point.. she only went to school up to year 3. Now she's in her late 50s.. i wouldn't call her (i don't know the word). stupid isn't it exactly... but even now she has no idea about some things.. and it's frustrating. she wishes her parents sent her to school, she regrets not going back to school as an adult. she's clever with numbers and planning, i give her that.. but other things we talk about in more detail she looks at us like we are complete aliens or something.

    WE as kids went to school.. preschool to year 12 and beyond. we actually really felt it when she could not help us ever with homework.. basic homework yes but after that no. and then we struggled as she just had no idea. she's a intelligent person there's no doubt about that.. she has travelled the world and is street smart but just has no idea about alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    Whilst some valid points have been raised not everyone aspires to a conventional/traditional vocation or lifestyle.

    If you want a conventional mind give your children a conventional education.

    I am not 'unschooling' my children however I am eschewing main****** education - for exactly the reason in my second paragraph.

    Why are we happy (proud even) for children who show genius academically to skip ahead in our school system - but do not allow the child who shows a genius for wood working, cooking, art, music etc... to do the same thing?

    Main****** takes a narrow view of what is an 'education' and it does not suit everyone.

    Edit - I accept I'll probably get flamed for this but I feel very passionately that our education system is failing our children.
    It is very rare for children to skip ahead in school in any subject, and if they do it wouldn't be for just one subject. They'd have to be excelling in most areas. It's not very common at all.

    I think your post reflects society, not the education system but nobody is saying to not be proud. My daughter is a talented artist. I am proud because I can't draw or paint to save myself.

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    If there are good teachers and bad teachers, that must mean there are good unschoolers and bad unschoolers too? What are the implications for the child if they have a bad unschooler for their entire childhood versus a bad teacher for a year or two at a time?

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    Oh dear! As a teacher, this thread makes me twitch, lol. So many misconceptions about the education system.

    Children are very rarely 'skipped ahead' a grade. Ive only seen it once, and the child was consistently working at a level 3+ grades ahead of her age, in every single area. She is now at high school and is doing extremely well. It is the responsibility of the teacher to differentiate the curriculum for a large range of needs, 'skipping ahead' just doesnt happen often at all.

    Homeschooling can be done very well, or very poorly. I worked at a school where a mum decided she had enough of homeschooling, & decided to send her children to school. It was appaling. I'm talking a grade 7 with the math, reading and writing skills of a grade 1 student. It placed a lot of pressure on the teacher. But that being said, homeschooling can be done very well. I guess the thing is, you can get a 'bad' teacher. I mean,that teacher had to pass a teaching degree, so MUST have some skill level, but still, poor teachers do exist. But the child will have that teacher for one year, & hopefully will have a better one the next year. But if a homeshool parent is a poor teacher, they have sole responsibility for their child's education,and they have the potential to stuff it up big time.

    Finally, I know one adult who was homeschooled. She has to be one of the most clueless people I have ever met. She has no understanding of science, or math, or English. She believes everything the internet tells her. She believes in chemtrails and is staunchly antivax, because she just has no understanding of the science behind it.

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    I think that ensuring your child has a good education, and supporting this process, is the best "gift" you can give your child. "Un-schoolers" are essentially saying that they are better teachers than actual, professional, teachers. I think it is naive at best, and very poor parenting at worst.

    I don't think it should be allowed. Unless a parent can demonstrate that it's not in the best interests of their child to attend school, it should be compulsory to attend formal school.

    You don't learn calculus and algebra from cooking and basic budgeting. You don't learn organic and physical chemistry from doing the laundry. You don't learn correct grammar and punctuation just from reading. Those who are educated themselves would realise this.

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    So I'm a bad parent then?

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    My DD skipped grade 4. She was always way ahead of the other kids in all areas. She's now in year 7 and still leading most of her classes and doing the advanced extension program.

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    Sorry if this has been asked before, but how do unschooled children het into tertiary education if they dont have yr 10 or yr 12 results? Can unschooled children sit exams to gain access to tertiary education?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    I think that ensuring your child has a good education, and supporting this process, is the best "gift" you can give your child. "Un-schoolers" are essentially saying that they are better teachers than actual, professional, teachers. I think it is naive at best, and very poor parenting at worst.

    I don't think it should be allowed. Unless a parent can demonstrate that it's not in the best interests of their child to attend school, it should be compulsory to attend formal school.

    You don't learn calculus and algebra from cooking and basic budgeting. You don't learn organic and physical chemistry from doing the laundry. You don't learn correct grammar and punctuation just from reading. Those who are educated themselves would realise this.

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    Agree

    And to add, flame me if you like, but I see unschooling as the result of first world privilege. When there are millions around the world probably desperate for a proper education, especially girls, and yet we're able to turn our noses up at it as though we know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciDahling View Post
    Agree

    And to add, flame me if you like, but I see unschooling as the result of first world privilege. When there are millions around the world probably desperate for a proper education, especially girls, and yet we're able to turn our noses up at it as though we know better.
    You've hit the nail on the head. Imagine the disbelief of people in third world countries if they heard that it's actually a choice that people make to not vaccinate and not provide their children with education (in the conventional sense).

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