I have found two docos on this really interesting lately- The men who made us fat & Fed up. Both explain the deception used in food processing/ labelling. The cover ups and scare tactics that have all been used by the food industry. The USA threatened to pull funding to the WHO if they released a report showing how bad sugar is. So it was never released. Lots of secrets and lies go on between the government and the food industry.
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10-10-2015 14:36 #31
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10-10-2015 14:40 #33
Firstly it's a whs issues, regardless if the person is overweight via healthy ( muscle) or unhealthy ( fat) means.
Certain equipment is required to lift over certain weights as whs regulations won't allow staff to manually handle over certain limits. Not to mention equipment has been engineered to be of a certain load bearing and if a person is heavier than that then it may cause strain on the said equipment and it may not function, or fail.
I'm sure as well the rule would be bent if bmi was caused by healthy means and they would find the equipment or specialist would perform in a hospital that has the equipment. It's a polite way of saying you're too fat.
Risks associated with being unhealthy and medical procedures are higher, a medical professional wants the best outcome and if procedures can be delayed until the patient is healthier then that is a better outcome for all.
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10-10-2015 14:42 #34
This is from WHO
Hopefully it will help alleviate any concerns with BMI as a measurement in this thread.
"Body mass index (BMI) is a simple index of weight-for-height that is commonly used to classify overweight and obesity in adults. It is defined as a person's weight in kilograms divided by the square of his height in meters (kg/m2).
The WHO definition is:
> a BMI greater than or equal to 25 is overweight
> a BMI greater than or equal to 30 is obesity.
BMI provides the most useful population-level measure of overweight and obesity as it is the same for both sexes and for all ages of adults. However, it should be considered a rough guide because it may not correspond to the same degree of fatness in different individuals."
10-10-2015 14:42 #35
It's an interesting topic as while we've def come to a point of obesity which is dangerous, there is a huge fitness industry now too. I live in a small town and we have 3 gyms!
I believe in healthy weight and good food and exercise. But some of the comments in this thread raised my eyebrows. It's little wonder people get so sensitive about their weight. And I have lost quite a bit of weight since my DS was born and I'm almost in size 8 clothes so this isn't, as someone above me unkindly said, basically just a fat person that can't be honest they are fat.
10-10-2015 14:49 #36
Take comfort that you know where you sit on the fat scale @delirium.
My BMI is 25 and I'm definitely overweight 😌
Anyway BMI is useful to measure fatness on a population country level.
On an individual level body fat % is much better if you have access to accurate scales. Or even a good old school tape measure!
10-10-2015 14:49 #37
In the household there were no vac, washing machines, electric beaters, spray and wipe so mum had to use elbow grease and her own strength.
Kids kicked balls and climbed trees
10-10-2015 14:52 #38
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10-10-2015 15:01 #40
Anyway I'll bow out. I'm not being deliberately argumentative, I promise lol I just wanted to add another layer to this debate.
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