I don't think it would make more people take drugs. It would still be illegal so you'd have to be willing to cross that line.
You'd have to find a way to buy said drugs etc And even if it's tested it doesn't make it safe and good for your health.
So no I don't see people not taking drugs now starting to take them just because of these kits.
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21-09-2015 22:14 #31
21-09-2015 22:22 #32
the implicit message behind making available free kits is 'its ok to take drugs, here we will provide a way to test them for you' ... its a statement of acceptance that drug taking is ok.
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21-09-2015 23:12 #33
Would kits really make it safer though? Would people genuinely not take something because the kit said not to? They've already spent the money and taken them to the festival so that would mean they'd have to be willing to attend the festival drug free. I kinda lean towards many people still taking them, when you take a pill you do so knowing it's usually cut with something and drugs are pretty expensive in Australia (compared to UK and USA) so I imagine some not wanting to feel like they wasted that money.
I didn't read your link though so maybe that was all addressed? Does this mean they'd not search for drugs before entrance?
Also...we often took the pill before entering...
22-09-2015 00:14 #34
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22-09-2015 02:05 #35
Absolutely. I'm all for harm minimization cause, you know, less harm = good.
22-09-2015 04:25 #36Senior Member
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So if this happened then what/how can they provide diaposal ao aomeone elae doesn't find it and pick it up and take it. Or a desperate person doesn't just 'raid' the place for drugs?
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22-09-2015 05:51 #37
Perhaps unsurprisingly I think its a good idea, though I'm with the "strongly encouraged" rather than "mandatory".
Yeah, people will take drugs regardless but every little bit helps.
22-09-2015 06:35 #38Senior Member
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I heard the report of the young person that overdosed recently and my first reaction? Legalise.
So yes I would be very supportive of testing kits and any other harm reduction methods - including legalisation of certain substances.
Why is it ok for adults to choose to write themselves off with alcohol, but not ok to safely purchase & take a pill that also alters your mind for hours? Yes people can still have bad reactions with a regulated substance.. Like alcohol. Who hasn't known or come across the angry rum drinker? At least if it was legalised there could be safe, regulated and reliable sources to purchase from.
As a teen I was a drug taker, we took risks but we didn't think they were stupid risks at the time and no one would have convinced us otherwise. We saw all the drug education, we saw people OD in films or in the news. We weren't unruly douchebag teenagers either - we were all well educated, one of the guys is now in neuroscience. My point is we did it anyway knowing all the risks. Just like cigarette smokers. Just like people who binge drink alcohol on a night out.
As a society we don't have the resources to keep up with or even touch the sides of the illegal drug trade. If we did, there wouldn't be one (considering this "battle" has been going on way longer than any of us have been alive).
More sniffer dogs & police at festivals is NOT the answer. This makes it worse - so many kids see the dogs, panic, and take all the drugs their holding at once and find themselves in serious danger. I've witnessed this first hand just a couple years ago at Splendor in the Grass, two young guys carrying their heavily drugged almost passed out buddy on the path up to the entrance at 10am (yes ambulance was called). Other young people "pre-load" which means to take as many drugs as you can handle before attending an event - also a serious risk of ODing.
Anyway I know on this forum I will most likely be slammed for this opinion so I'll stop here.
22-09-2015 06:45 #39
Yes. I believe in harm minimisation. My experience is that people are going to do drugs if they want to, providing harm minimisation strategies statistically does not encourage drug use. That is a huge myth.
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