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    So I'm pretty sure I'm going to be a perpetual student haha!

    Anyway I've applied for a grad dip ed for teaching for next year. DH is a teacher and he loves it! I was mainly doing a PhD so I could teach at uni, that hasn't worked out, but teaching school science would be pretty rad too.

    Can anyone tell me if there is a bigger call for science teachers at the upper primary/middle school areas these day? I know they are getting more specialist teachers in lately (eg art, drama) but not sure about science. I also really like the idea of teaching the young'uns science before they get to highschool (that's where you catch them! ).

    If anyone has some insight I would love it!

    TIA!

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    I teach in a primary school. Our school has specialist teachers in Art and PD/H/PE. All the rest of the KLAs we need to be able to teach.

    I know in NSW, they really need science/mathematics high school teachers.

    We have used CSIRO, for quite a few science based teaching units. I wonder if they have a teaching unit, you could apply for. You would need the fundamentals of teaching and your knowledge of science. Just a thought.

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    My supervisor was recently talking about a need for better primary/middle school science (and teachers who can teach it), but I can't remember the details... Hopefully it's something they're improving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deku View Post
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    My supervisor was recently talking about a need for better primary/middle school science (and teachers who can teach it), but I can't remember the details... Hopefully it's something they're improving!
    My primary school science teaching was woeful. Middle school was meh - it wasn't until senior school where I got the good teachers. If I didn't have such an interest in it I would have dropped it by year 11 (like DH did). I keep hearing about how there are teachers not trained in science teaching it in high school because there are no other teachers to do it.

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    I think it would depend on the state/area but I know in qld they are always crying out for science & maths.

    Just started my grad dip part time and from all we've been told the job prospects are pretty good in most teaching areas.

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    I'm a middle school science teacher and most schools want you to be able to teach Senior as well.

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    Does anyone know how the DipEd works? I have a general science degree (mainly biology with a bit of chem and business) and am thinking of doing a 1 year dip ed to become a high school teacher. Would I be able to teach maths and physics - or would I have had to study these subjects as part of my degree to be able to teach them?

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    You have to have studied it in your first degree to teach it at a senior school level. So in your case with a science degree you'd be able to teach general science in lower high school, and if you majored in biology, you'd be able to teach that to year 11-12s. Although it's pretty rare for a graduate teacher to be given an ATAR level class straight away so you would likely start with just general classes.

    OP primary schools don't generally employ specialist science teachers as the classroom teachers cover it. In high school, in WA at least, chemistry and physics teachers are in high demand and can get jobs easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by besha View Post
    You have to have studied it in your first degree to teach it at a senior school level. So in your case with a science degree you'd be able to teach general science in lower high school, and if you majored in biology, you'd be able to teach that to year 11-12s. Although it's pretty rare for a graduate teacher to be given an ATAR level class straight away so you would likely start with just general classes.

    OP primary schools don't generally employ specialist science teachers as the classroom teachers cover it. In high school, in WA at least, chemistry and physics teachers are in high demand and can get jobs easily.
    Thank you very much for this info

    Do you know if there is another pathway to being able to teach maths and physics without having so do another whole degree?

    I'm guessing there probably isn't... Unfortunately I can't financially take 3 years off to retrain but can manage 1 hence wanting to do the dip ed.

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    It really depends on which state/school your working in. In my first teaching job in a state school I was given a bunch of subjects I wasn't
    qualified to teach to fill my load. It was fine though. At the private school I work at it would be far less likely but can still happen. Heaps of our science teachers teach maths as well.

    I don't think you need to worry about having physics/maths separate degrees.

    I didn't think you could still do a 1 yr dip ed any more? Thought it'd been changed to 2 yrs??

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