Are you saying that there are no people among the refugees that are Sunni muslim?
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08-09-2015 21:03 #221Senior Member
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08-09-2015 21:05 #222
I am not at all profiling a majority of people, I am not saying that refugees are all criminals. I have said that 90% of asylum seekers are genuine refugees. I asked a few pages back - who are the remaining 10%? I never said that they are criminals. I said that I wonder if a lot of our resources and money are spent processing the 10% and finding out who they are, why they are in Australia. I don't know WHO these 10% of non genuine refugees are, why they are here.... I am asking the question, not making any assumptions. I was just speculating that perhaps we don't have refugees in the community because some are high risk for dangerous behaviour? Is that why? I am asking, not saying. But is it a small enough risk that we take the risk for the sake of those 90%? Again, I am asking, not saying. GENUINE QUESTION!!!!!! NOT BEING A SMART AR$E.
I also asked - what DO other countries do? Do they accept the refugees into the community, knowing that the risk that any are dodgy/ criminals/ going to do a runner/ whatever the risk is, do they know that the risk is so small that it is worth taking that small risk?
08-09-2015 21:12 #223
08-09-2015 21:17 #224
08-09-2015 21:21 #225
Originally Posted by BigRedV
Look, under Australian law, ANYBODY who is in Australia without a valid visa must be taken to a detention centre. That is in our migration act. But there are exceptions. Community detention is an alternative and should absolutely be used for children, women and families. Currently there are about 800 children in detention.
Again,I hate kids in detention&I totally get that. But is it completely impossible that someone with a wife or children could be dangerous in the community?Is that why the entire family is detained if there is a question mark over one family member? Would it be better to detain one member & separate the family? Or detain both parents &put the kids into foster care in australia?Again not being a smart ar$e,wanting to find a better way. The local community detention centre near me mostly had families. But can someone not be unsuitable/ a criminal/etc because they have children? Or do we say that the risk is so low that someone is not genuine (only 10%), that we take that as an acceptable risk in the community for the sake of the children of the 90%?
..... genuine questions above. Not being a smart ar$e. I promise. In fact, to save us all time, please assume from this point onwards that all my questions are genuine and I am not being a smart ar$e ever, unless I post this smiley after my question
08-09-2015 21:22 #226
08-09-2015 21:24 #227
I don't think it's impossible that people with families aren't criminals. But as someone pointed out, just because one person might not be a genuine refugee, does that automatically make them a criminal? Or just someone who wants a better life?
08-09-2015 21:24 #228
08-09-2015 21:31 #229
08-09-2015 21:37 #230
If you have a look on a map, you can see what their options are. They can get to Turkey, Lebanon or Jordan. I'm not even sure if they can pass through Jordan given the tight security and difficult terrain. I'm not sure what policies the other middle eastern countries have but in Jordan for example, they are not allowed to work, go to school, rent a home, receive welfare etc etc.
Edit. This map is from 2014 so you can imagine the Islamic State controls a much larger area. 1441715909765.jpg
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