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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Dancer View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried this method. I was really hoping it would work for us. Unfortunately, as soon as I stop patting, his little head pops up off the mattress and he looks at me like he thinks this means play time.

    I hope you have some luck with your bub. Sleep deprivation is terrible.
    Have you set up a little pre-sleep ritual? If you do this and continue what you're doing, bub will eventually get it. But I recommend to start with if bub is still quite young, keep patting until he is fully asleep. He's probably too young to get to drowsy but awake and still sleep. But he will soon start to associate your little ritual and the patting with falling asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    Have you set up a little pre-sleep ritual? If you do this and continue what you're doing, bub will eventually get it. But I recommend to start with if bub is still quite young, keep patting until he is fully asleep. He's probably too young to get to drowsy but awake and still sleep. But he will soon start to associate your little ritual and the patting with falling asleep.
    Yes. We have both a nap and nighttime routine. He's 9.5 months, so not that young. I kept trying it for 2 weeks, so thought it should have worked semi reliably after that time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Dancer View Post
    Yes. We have both a nap and nighttime routine. He's 9.5 months, so not that young. I kept trying it for 2 weeks, so thought it should have worked semi reliably after that time frame.
    Wowsers. That sounds really terrible. You must be so tired (and emotional)! I went to the Nurture centre at North West Hospital in Brisbane when DD was 10 months old. They didnt do CC or CIO. I think they called it responsive settling where they teach you how to calm your bubba so that they settle to sleep. Staff were very patient. Let me go at my own pace. Shes slept around 12 hours per night ever since. I found it helped when someone who knew what they were doing would say its time to calm her or shes ok...... Would this be an option for you??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Dancer View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried this method. I was really hoping it would work for us. Unfortunately, as soon as I stop patting, his little head pops up off the mattress and he looks at me like he thinks this means play time.

    I hope you have some luck with your bub. Sleep deprivation is terrible.
    I found that shoosh/pat never worked for DS, I tried for weeks! He would just look at me like 'wtf are you doing lady?' I swear it actually over-stimulated him rather than soothed him. Resting my hand on him saw more success, if anything worked.

    I do remember him going through a phase around 9/10 months of waking every 90 mins, I genuinely thought he was never going to sleep but he's actually pretty fab now requiring no help from me (18 months) so there is hope!

    Once he self-weaned his sleeping gradually got better but after he mastered walking it went to practically perfect (knock on wood!). He's definitely a sleep begets sleep child and mastering his naps helped with night sleeping as he's restless and sleeps worse if he's overtired, so I found doing what I could to get him to sleep well for naps helped, even if it meant lying with him and napping myself, plus working our the formula of how long for each nap. Currently letting him sleep as long as he needs for his nap means better sleeping overnight.

    I feel for you, I remember how hard it was when he was waking like that!
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    @luv - we did go to the equivalent where we live when he was 6 months. At that point, once he was asleep he'd only wake once. The problem was getting him to sleep. I'll have to get the materials out and read them again, and make DH follow it exactly. I think part of the problem was that I taught DH, but he put his own spin on it. It was confusing DS, so I started doing what DH was doing. Maybe he will be more receptive to the techniques now. Question re responsive settling - if he is just lying in the cot chatting and doesn't go to sleep, do I just get him up again without a nap? How long do I wait to try again. Thanks for reminding me
    @HollyGolightly81 - patting is currently the only thing that works for him. I did get to the point where I was lightly resting my hand on him. DH helped put him to sleep one weekend and decided patting was faster... and that was the end of that. Thank you so much for the hope! I'm struggling today after 3 nights with about 3 hours sleep. Having a light at the end of the tunnel makes it easier. I have found the same thing re: naps - he gets 2 naps of 1.5 hours a day now. He won't sleep any longer, and I've started having to resettle half way through his nap, too.

    He's currently got 2 teeth cutting, I can see 2 more not far behind, he's just started to show signs of a cold, and entered a wonder week. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Dancer View Post
    @luv - we did go to the equivalent where we live when he was 6 months. At that point, once he was asleep he'd only wake once. The problem was getting him to sleep. I'll have to get the materials out and read them again, and make DH follow it exactly. I think part of the problem was that I taught DH, but he put his own spin on it. It was confusing DS, so I started doing what DH was doing. Maybe he will be more receptive to the techniques now. Question re responsive settling - if he is just lying in the cot chatting and doesn't go to sleep, do I just get him up again without a nap? How long do I wait to try again. Thanks for reminding me
    @HollyGolightly81 - patting is currently the only thing that works for him. I did get to the point where I was lightly resting my hand on him. DH helped put him to sleep one weekend and decided patting was faster... and that was the end of that. Thank you so much for the hope! I'm struggling today after 3 nights with about 3 hours sleep. Having a light at the end of the tunnel makes it easier. I have found the same thing re: naps - he gets 2 naps of 1.5 hours a day now. He won't sleep any longer, and I've started having to resettle half way through his nap, too.

    He's currently got 2 teeth cutting, I can see 2 more not far behind, he's just started to show signs of a cold, and entered a wonder week. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
    I'm feeling you! DS is 11.5 months and is teething, snotty, 1 day off a wonder week and waking a lot. I manage to get 3-4 nights in a row where he wakes just once for a feed and straight back to sleep, but right now / usually I'm up 3-5 times a night.

    My DD who I thought was a bad sleeper as a baby was sleeping through at 10 months. DS is a whole other story.

    At least he's teething quickly so should have most of his teeth by 18 months.

    Holly your story gives me hope whenever I read it.

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    Consistency is the key for sure. So make sure everyone is doing the same thing. I think you're supposed to look for tired signs before you put them back in the cot πŸ˜ƒ

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv View Post
    Consistency is the key for sure. So make sure everyone is doing the same thing. I think you're supposed to look for tired signs before you put them back in the cot πŸ˜ƒ

    Thanks! He usually yawns and rubs his eyes as soon as I get him up if he hasn't slept. Might wait til the ones after that.
    Will discuss with DH, maybe even write it down for him, and see how we go... hopefully we can make it work. We'll work on it after the cold is gone and teeth are through, I think. The poor little love is struggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Dancer View Post
    @luv - we did go to the equivalent where we live when he was 6 months. At that point, once he was asleep he'd only wake once. The problem was getting him to sleep. I'll have to get the materials out and read them again, and make DH follow it exactly. I think part of the problem was that I taught DH, but he put his own spin on it. It was confusing DS, so I started doing what DH was doing. Maybe he will be more receptive to the techniques now. Question re responsive settling - if he is just lying in the cot chatting and doesn't go to sleep, do I just get him up again without a nap? How long do I wait to try again. Thanks for reminding me
    @HollyGolightly81 - patting is currently the only thing that works for him. I did get to the point where I was lightly resting my hand on him. DH helped put him to sleep one weekend and decided patting was faster... and that was the end of that. Thank you so much for the hope! I'm struggling today after 3 nights with about 3 hours sleep. Having a light at the end of the tunnel makes it easier. I have found the same thing re: naps - he gets 2 naps of 1.5 hours a day now. He won't sleep any longer, and I've started having to resettle half way through his nap, too.

    He's currently got 2 teeth cutting, I can see 2 more not far behind, he's just started to show signs of a cold, and entered a wonder week. I think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
    How long is he chatting before you get him up? Would he stop chatting and actually fall asleep if you 'interfered' (patting, lie with him, etc)?

    Sorry, I totally misunderstood your post and thought you meant you'd been trying patting for a couple weeks and it wasn't working ☺️.

    My DS is definitely a child where teething and wonder weeks really affected him. For his teeth, only nuerofen works overnight and elevating his cot (a book under each leg at the top) helps relieve the pressure. Also helps with congestion if you haven't tried already.

    We're currently at our last tooth cutting (before the 2 year molars at least) and I'm looking forward to a break from these efffing teeth!

    There is definitely hope though girls, he loves having a nap and doesn't need me to lie with him at all anymore, sleeps 2.5-3 hours! Same with bedtime, loves going to bed and sleeping until 6.30-7 once I figured out that letting him wake on his own at naptime (rather than waking him after 2hrs) meant he stopped waking at 5am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post

    There is definitely hope though girls, he loves having a nap and doesn't need me to lie with him at all anymore, sleeps 2.5-3 hours! Same with bedtime, loves going to bed and sleeping until 6.30-7 once I figured out that letting him wake on his own at naptime (rather than waking him after 2hrs) meant he stopped waking at 5am!
    Yay so the 5am wakings are no more!?

    Our naps are great (at home at least Child care is another story). He falls asleep on his own at night too but he's waking because of teeth and constipation/digestive issues. Doesn't help that he's a boobie monster and needs the comfort of feeding to get him back to sleep in the middle of the night.
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