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    I agree. A place where kids are accepted for who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    I was going to suggest a 'discuss it section' where people can discuss research and studies and professional blogs etc and everyone agrees to leave emotions at the door and talk about it maturely.

    It is difficult, as me for example I've not used controlled crying or CIO, or the Tizzie Hall method as sleep training methods, but I do believe there is nothing wrong with those methods and understand why parents do use them. But I do believe in sleep training so I fall in the middle of the 'sleep debate' but I find the general sleep section to still turn into an emotional debate section, so as I mentioned I think a non-emotional discuss it section for people who are passionate about sleep can talk about it and new parents who don't know what type of parents they are yet, or aren't sure what to do about their babies 'poor sleep' to get an idea of both sides of the coin, but who don't want to read people getting snarky at each other IYKWIM.
    Sorry but "new parents" should know that babies wake at night. Sometimes a lot. And it doesn't mean their babies are "poor" sleepers or that they need to be trained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Sorry but "new parents" should know that babies wake at night. Sometimes a lot. And it doesn't mean their babies are "poor" sleepers or that they need to be trained.
    And new parents should know there are plenty of gentle things they can do to help increases the chances of their bub having a full long night of restful sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    And new parents should know there are plenty of gentle things they can do to help increases the chances of their bub having a full long night of restful sleep.
    Yes! But it doesn't involve boiling the kettle and making a cup of tea.

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    If we can't even agree on what the thread or section is about I don't see a point. Every topic will be shut down.

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    I like the idea of a discuss it section. That way people should be less likely to go from thread to thread arguing their point relentlessly under guises of challenging an opinion or wanting to be educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mod-xkwzit View Post
    There is a sticky thread "Sleep Vents", which is a support thread for parents of reluctant sleepers and there are pro and anti CC sections. Do any of those suit?

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    No not really. Others have said it better than I can.
    The thread we are looking for to be sticky is a thread that is not a dicuss it or a vent for people to come in and try fix it but this it is normal for kids not sleep through by X age. A support thread. Your not a bad parent and there's nothing wrong with your child if they aren't sleeping through.

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    I like the idea of a discuss it thread. That way people will be less likely to go from thread to thread carrying forward grudges from the past, taking other people's words personally and lashing out as a result. If it's crystal clear to people that it's a discuss it thread then people would know to expect a robust but respectful discussion (I hope).

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    Default Not every child will sleep

    I've been thinking about this a lot, and I really think that the intent of a thread is almost always clear in the OP, and we all need to be aware of that and respect it.

    If someone asks for advice on implementing SOS because they have definitely decided to use it, then those of us who dislike SOS should maybe suck it up and not comment. If someone posts a thread saying they believe sleep behaviour is genetic and they'd like to hear from people that agree, then those of us that disagree should maybe suck it up and not comment. Threads asking for opinions/experience on (for example) CIO, CC, SOS, shush-pat - well, we all have opinions and can contribute. If someone posts and says they are at their wit's end about sleep, feeding, anything else, and are seeking ideas, then maybe we can be compassionate and offer support and share what has worked for us and give everyone else space to do the same.

    It's really not rocket science.

    ETA and perhaps we can all agree to just give each other a clean slate on this topic, otherwise all sleep threads are just going to go the same way.

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    I think a discuss it section and a section for each 'type' of parent (i.e. support for non-sleepers' and support for sleep trainers) would be good. I think when 'SUPPORT' is added to the title of the section opponents tend to understand that they should just stay out of it if they disagree too much.

    I think I fall in the middle ground, I'm not anti-sleep training, I often go in threads to give routine advice and pass on 'sleep links' I've found helpful. I was a sleep trainer for a career so obviously I understand both sides. BUT my personal experience has shown me that the constant hammering of certain points *does* cause certain parents more anxiety and that's why I now feel it is important to show parents in a positive light that sometimes you're kid just won't sleep because sometimes that helps ease a lot of the anxiety--it eases the constant anxiety that you must be doing something wrong if your baby doesn't sleep like the books or others say. There are tons of sleep training info out there and more often than not the message and research that it's fairly normal for your baby to wake gets lost amongst all of the other advice.

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