Yes, there are still a minority who will get wasted and get behind the wheel, and we'll never stop those people. But if we can get the majority to rethink their drinking & driving, we may save some lives/injuries.
Look, 0.00 may not be realistic in a culture like ours where drinking is the norm. But like i said in a further post, maybe a combination of more education, a cognitive function test, and personal breathalysers would help. But again, that's not going to stop the people who chose to drink drive anyway!
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07-08-2015 08:59 #63
As for the police officer who was over the limit and hit my uncle on his motorbike...well, who knows with that one. I don't whether he thought he was fine, or whether he thought he was above the law... but I'd like to think that a police officer would be doing their best to abide by the law.
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07-08-2015 09:16 #65
Hubby & I are both of the same opinion... Who ever is having a drink be it one or more the other drives.
Although it's probably easier for us to have that train of thought being as though I don't drink at all... But even when I did only one of us would drink (usually him anyway) and the other drove just safer that way & the one drinking doesn't have to think hmm will I be over or can I have this 1 more.
07-08-2015 09:46 #66
I see your point of view @harvs and understand your reasoning. But as @meredithgrey has stated, the people who are likely to get sloshed and drive aren't going to be affected by any change in the law. Murder is illegal, but sick people still murder.
As for me, I have only come off my P's this year, which means I can now have one drink and drive afterwards. It still doesn't sit right with me though as I am so used to just abstaining if I had to drive, so the majority of the time I have no alcohol if I'm out for dinner etc. I have had a glass of wine with lunch whilst out and no more and driven an hour or so later and felt absolutely no impact on my driving whatsoever. It depends on the individual I guess.
07-08-2015 09:51 #67
Firstly, I need to clarify that I hardly ever drink. Like, I could count on one hand the number of drinks I have had this year.
But I will admit that when I get the chance to go out with friends or just DF (Basically anywhere sans children) I do like to have a drink or two. I'm on the taller side of average I would say (just), and a bit overweight. I would certainly never ever drive after two, and I hardly even make it to my second drink because I feel one is enough. I like the freedom to know I can drive after one if needed.
I do feel there needs to be a national law that if you ever get fined for drink driving your personal legal limit needs to be lowered to 0 for life. Maybe a symbol to go on your licence to denote this so when you are pulled over for a RAB the police know if you are a 0.5 driver (never been done drink driving) or a 0 (L plater, P plater or someone been caught previously)
However, the cynic in me says that the law will never change because a lot of revenue would be generated through drink driving fines and state governments wouldn't want to miss out on that.
07-08-2015 10:28 #68
Why is drinking so instilled in our culture that NOT drinking seems like such a difficult thing or a buzz kill? I mean, not drinking is about not putting yourself and other people at risk. I've read enough in this thread to realize, even with a BAC of under 0.05, people can still feel too impaired to drive. Maybe it's more about making a judgment call, regardless of being under the limit, but even that can be unreliable. People don't need a glass of wine with dinner when they know they will be driving home later. I guess I don't really understand why this would even be up for debate...and this is coming from someone with an alcoholic dad who would drive home drunk on a regular basis AND lost his license more than once because of it. I know this isn't the same as someone who drinks "responsibly", but how responsible is it, really to get behind the wheel with ANY alcohol in your system?
07-08-2015 10:42 #69
That being said, plenty of people can enjoy a glass of wine with dinner and IMO should be allowed to do so. Muppets like me are the ones who screw it up and make the idiotic mistakes and disrespect alcohol. That's not everyone though.
I do think the way alcohol is abused in Australia is at the root of so many problems. It's so ingrained in our culture, and not in a good way.
07-08-2015 10:57 #70
Alcohol limit should be zero. I've know of a few people who have been in car accidents and not survived.
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