I think a 0.0 limit and all cars to b fitted with breathalyzers so if u do have a drink u can check when its completely out of ur system before getting behind the wheel.
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07-08-2015 07:25 #51
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07-08-2015 07:32 #52
My heart says zero but my head says that's harsh and unreasonable. At the end of the day, the people who are getting blind drunk and getting behind the wheel of a car are going to do that regardless of the limit.
0.08 is still pretty high. It takes me 2 or 3 glasses of wine to be over the limit under normal circumstances (one after the other, not tired, having eaten). I'd be pretty damn tipsy at .08. What I noted though was the use of language there: "only" .08. Until people start breathalysing themselves and seeing how they are at each reading, a number can be really arbitrary. I don't see .08 as being "only" .08. I see it as being almost .1 which is, frankly, drunk.
I wouldn't feel comfortable driving at .05. I think any licensed establishment should be legally obliged to have breathalysers for people to use. I remember my local nightclub used to have one and it was really interesting seeing what the reading was in relation to how drunk you felt and how much it could change and be influenced by factors such as tiredness.
We don't educate new drivers enough about the effects of drinking. We use this seemingly arbitrary number then stupid theories of one drink an hour, then wonder why so many people get done for drink driving and are surprised that they're over the limit. I'm all for actual education, teaching people how to drink responsibly, getting them to understand what .05 actually feels like under different circumstances. Of course I accept that this type of education is costly and difficult to implement. But it can start in the home.
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07-08-2015 07:38 #53
0.08 is low end mid range, it's by no means a small amount.
07-08-2015 07:38 #54
My personal rules are I and my children (under 18 ) don't get in a car with anyone that has a drink. It's just not worth it.
07-08-2015 08:01 #55
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07-08-2015 08:23 #57
Thanks for the sympathy and understanding btw... *note sarcasm. Maybe you could have picked someone to quote who hasn't lost 3 family members to drunk drivers? Bit insensitive really...
07-08-2015 08:25 #58
07-08-2015 08:29 #59
Although as I writing this I was thinking of when a news presenter blew over the limit years ago after a glass of wine earlier in ️day while a bigger person it would probably have been well out of their system. Perhaps a 0 limit would remove that 'am I right to drive after 1 inner monologue' or people who think they are fine after following the 'guideline' of 1 every hour etc. I note that some of the messaging is that you drink OR drive, that if you plan to have a drink find another way home.
I agree with PP who said that education about the variability in what you can drink between people is key.
I'll also say if we have the kids in the car DH and I choose one person to have a drink and the other to drive.
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