Sorry if there's a thread on this already, I searched but didn't find one.
I'm wondering if the toilets at your children's school are easily accessed by anybody off the street like this?
When we were in school we had two toilet breaks a day.
One in the morning and one in the afternoon.
The teacher always accompanied us and these toilets were in the same building as our classrooms.
It cut down all need for students to be wandering around school grounds on their own or in pairs.
A few times I have been at school pick up earlier than I should be (baby) and I've seen kindergarten kids dilly-dallying at the toilets.
I hate it!
They're so vulnerable and anybody could be out in the grounds as it's easily accessible.
I really think, given the way the world is these days, all children should be supervised at all times while in care of the school. Especially if the toilets are out in another building all together.
Two toilet breaks (rostered of course) should be enough.
It's very easily done and it would have to be easier than having children ask to go all day long? Finding them a partner and keeping tabs on them all?
Recently my DS wet his pants????
The reason - nobody would pair up with him to use the bathroom.
I don't know what went wrong there but he must have asked could he go and his teacher said yes find a partner and then left him to it...until he wet himself through.
So she's not really minding what they're doing at all is she?
She should have given him a partner, noted when they left and made sure they were back within a reasonable amount of time.
That's obviously not happening.
I'd be furious if this indecent happened at his school, and these are older children in a bigger group.
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01-08-2015 07:45 #1
01-08-2015 08:03 #2
There have been principals and assistant principals stood down in Victoria in the last few years for creating policies about not using the toilets as they need to during class. Most teachers of young children (who I know) still do try to do the whole class toilet break regularly.
01-08-2015 08:19 #3
I am a teacher. With my 5yo's, I would do whole class toilet breaks 3x a day. The kids were great with it -their bodies synchronise vrry quickly with using the toilet at those times. But they still needed to go in between at times. I couldnt lwave my class to take a child to the toilet every time one needed to go. I wouldnt get any teaching done, & its not safe for the class. Parents would be FURIOUS if I didnt let their kids go to the toilet in between whole class breaks. The toilets were in a fairly central place, so its hard for anything sinister to happen with so many students & teachers around all the time. If youre concerned, talk to the school about the safety of the toilets & their location, ask if they have any issues, etc. Personally, I discouraged excessive toilet breaks & some kids would go every 30 mins &have a good ol play in the toilets each time if they were allowed. So I did really monitor it. But it is something parents really fire up about.
ETA - with your son, the teacher should definitely have paired him up with someone for the toilet & sent them together, & be mindful of the fact that they are gone until they return. Its vital a teacher knows where her students are & who is at the toilets.
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01-08-2015 09:27 #4
Ah I understand it wouldn't be a seamless system. Children's bladders will do what they need to do. I'm sure there's a better way around it than letting two small children off out across a school yard to the toilets (beside an open car park in my son's case) with no one keeping a watchful eye.
This incident just hammered home the concerns I already have about the security at our school.
They have a policy of having no parents around after the bell and the school is on "lock down" but no gates are closed, nothing changes.
You can enter one gate on one side of the school and exit another.
Wouldn't really matter anyway as even I could jump the fence.
I just think, in schools like ours, they need to review and update their security.
It's horrible to have to think like that but such is the way of the world now.
I'm well aware these things always happened, but I do feel they are on the increase and all it takes is one incident to ruin a child's life.
I hope those children are doing OK.
01-08-2015 09:46 #5
I definitely agree that security needs to be reviewed. I would approach the principal/ PTA & discuss your concerns & what measures you think could be put in place - at my school we had a high fence & gates that were locked after the school bell. People could still get in if they really wanted to scale a fence,etc -but it wasnt as easy as walking through a gate. So security can be upgraded in that way - but I personally dont see how students going to the toilet can be changed. If they have to go, they have to go! Maybe talk to your DS about going during break times, or talk to his teacher about having set times that the whole class can go? It wont stop the need to go to the toilet at other times, but might reduce it.
01-08-2015 09:52 #6
I know we can never stop these horrible incidents happening, but taking action to reduce the possibilities for opportunist creeps like this, is worthwhile imo.
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01-08-2015 09:56 #7
Have there been cases of kids abused in school toilets?
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