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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    I'm going to ask this thread to be closed. It wasn't meant to upset anyone and I'm sorry it's taken this turn.
    I apologise if my comments made u feel this thread should be closed. I'm going to stop commenting and ignore negative comments about it. 😊 just hope that some people see that not all smokers are doing it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    I'm going to ask this thread to be closed. It wasn't meant to upset anyone and I'm sorry it's taken this turn.
    Of course it's up to you, but fwiw I think it's been a very interesting read for people :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Of course it's up to you, but fwiw I think it's been a very interesting read for people :-)
    I think so too, but not worth upsetting anyone else over 😊

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    I also think this thread has been an interesting read. I work in a hospital so I've seen the health effects of many things that might be considered lifestyle choices such as smoking, poor diet, alcohol and drug abuse etc. When I see someone smoking I generally feel sad that they are addicted to something that will undoubtedly negatively affect their health. I don't think it's a great look in uniform but wouldn't say anything. I also would never make comment or make loud 'holding my breath' noises as I walk past, I think living in Melbourne I probably get as much negative impact from pollution as I would from second hand smoke. I don't have a child with asthma so sensitive it would be triggered by a whiff of second hand smoke, but if I did I would try to avoid the situation whenever possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleyoop View Post
    Thank you for the hugs ☺️

    It seems I am doing something wrong even though I know I'm not. Seems all smokers are horrible people by some people's comments.

    Oh I'd flip my lid if anyone did those things! I've blown up at my mil for doing a few things similar. I'm glad someone can see that some of us are trying to do the right thing.
    I'm a smoker and I'd like to think I'm not horrible, nor feral or all the other comments that have been made. I'm not proud of being a smoker, and if I could summons the will power from within I would, but bugger me apparently I'm weak too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meredithgrey View Post
    No it doesn't.

    The area where I work has had a massive massive massive spike of type 2 diabetes that is related to obesity, poor lifestyle choices and family history.

    I'm seeing 7 year old's being diagnosed with T2DM, 18 year old's having toes amputated due to diabetic complications and people in there 20's dying.

    I'm seeing huge pregnancy complications from needing premature delivery because the placenta has almost stopped functioning, stillbirths from poor diabetic control, and babies who spend weeks in the nursery trying to control their blood sugar levels because they are all out of whack from the intense amount of sugar they were getting in utero. These babies are at such a high risk of developing T2DM as they grow up - it's a horrific cycle.

    Yes I know not all overweight/obese people will develop T2DM and not all T2DM is caused by obesity or lifestyle choices - but this is my experience of where I work.

    I have people admitted for diabetic stabilisation and its absolutely pointless because they're sneaking bottles of coke or there family is bringing them McDonald's and KFC.

    The cost on the health system from the ever-growing rate of obesity and T2DM and associated complications is just going to skyrocket and become astronomical.

    Not to mention the effect on family members when your loved ones are dying at 25, or newborn babies that you know a) their mum probably won't live to see them turn 18 and b) are already genetically set up for T2DM and obesity.
    Wow that's scary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICanDream View Post
    I'm a smoker and I'd like to think I'm not horrible, nor feral or all the other comments that have been made. I'm not proud of being a smoker, and if I could summons the will power from within I would, but bugger me apparently I'm weak too.
    I like to think I'm not feral as well. I'm not proud either, I just don't feel a lot of people should put down smokes just because they think it's gross. A lot of smokers aren't smoking because they enjoy it. Just wish some people would see that it's not enjoyable, it sucks. Big time.

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    I was staying out of this thread as I didn't want to be identified as a smoker. I'm so ashamed about it, as I think most are.

    As a smoker I wish they'd just ban the damn things and take the temptation away. But they rely on our taxes too much.

    I hate it I hate it but I'm weak, exhausted, it's my coping mechanism and I'm addicted.

    I can't seek support from family to quit as I already hide it from them now, especially as I'm pregnant.

    So hate me all you want, I already hate myself enough and the guilt kills me.

    And hurtful comments just make me feel awful about myself and therefore want to smoke more. You cannot possibly understand the grip smoking can hold over you unless you've been there yourself.

    That girl who was smoking was doing nothing wrong unless it wasn't in a designated area. Sure, it's not a good look but she is perfectly entitled to do so, she probably works a crappy job with crappy pay and it gets her through the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
    I was staying out of this thread as I didn't want to be identified as a smoker. I'm so ashamed about it, as I think most are.

    As a smoker I wish they'd just ban the damn things and take the temptation away. But they rely on our taxes too much.

    I hate it I hate it but I'm weak, exhausted, it's my coping mechanism and I'm addicted.

    I can't seek support from family to quit as I already hide it from them now, especially as I'm pregnant.

    So hate me all you want, I already hate myself enough and the guilt kills me.

    And hurtful comments just make me feel awful about myself and therefore want to smoke more. You cannot possibly understand the grip smoking can hold over you unless you've been there yourself.

    That girl who was smoking was doing nothing wrong unless it wasn't in a designated area. Sure, it's not a good look but she is perfectly entitled to do so, she probably works a crappy job with crappy pay and it gets her through the day.
    Yesss! This!!! I feel exactly the same way

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    @Little Miss Sunshine big hugs. Smoking has a huge physical and emotional hold over addicts, and I think it is one of those things that's just hard to understand unless you've been there.

    When I had PND and had just moved out with a kid that didn't sleep and was grieving, smoking became my crutch. It was that or alcohol and I felt smoking a few times a day made me a safer sole parent than one who went to sleep drunk or zoned out on prescription pills (also legal). They were both crappy choices but I made one. If someone had given me a hard time about it, it would've broken me, so I hid it. Then you get in the loop of smoking, hiding, guilt etc.

    There are lots of poor health choices that people can make and that affect others. Smoking is the one that cops it at the moment. I mean, you can go to a public place just like everyone else, pay money to eat a meal and have a few drinks just like everyone else, but be sent outside to do a legal activity, rain, hail or shine. I get why, but it all contributes to smokers being second class citizens.

    People on this thread were talking about their feelings about cigarettes in general, and just about everyone has feelings on cigarettes! I don't think anyone of it was intended as a personal attack. We just feel vulnerable about it and it's like someone knocking a bruise.

    Just let it go for now. You'll quit when you're ready.

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