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    Now, I ought to know which sounds are generally learnt in which order (I did a lot of study on this at uni) but can't remember :P I'm sure the internet can tell you. Suffice it to say that there's quite a broad 'normal' range. There are a couple (l for y in certain positions, such as "lellow" for "yellow"; swapping consonants where it's easier to pronounce, such as "hopsital" or "aminal") are quite common up until about 5 or 6. For the most part, this kind of pronunciation stuff is down to...terms that I should know and can't remember :P The ease/difficulty of pronouncing certain combinations of sounds, essentially.

    If you think he might need some help, I'd think:
    1 - check hearing
    2 - everyday stuff to assist with speech, like repeating what he's said the "correct" way. So... "pyane!" "yeah, it's a plane". You can also emphasise the sound he appears to be missing, and attempt to get him looking at your mouth while you pronounce those sounds. Even little games where you try to get him to copy sounds, like "lalalala" etc. can help. Also talking about sounds without expecting anything from him...like... "hey, it's a dog. da for dog" etc.

    Apologies if that's complete rambling, I'm half asleep here :P
    I'm not sure about DD's pronunciation. She's about the same age as your son, but she's always been advanced in her language. There are definitely things that she mispronounces, and certain sounds and combinations that she struggles with. Will pay attention tomorrow and let you know some of the things she doesn't pronounce properly.

    Edit: just had a look at the link regarding articulation. THAT'S the stuff I was attempting to remember! Great resource.
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    Not sure if you remember but my DS pretty much didn't talk at all until he was 3ish and had a massive amount of early intervention (speech therapy) - I have sat though many MANY speech therapy sessions from 3 therapists. With some of the pronunciation:
    - "J" is one of the most difficult sounds to make, it is a combination of "D" and "G". I remember this because it's the first letter of DS's name and he left it of when he spoke of himself until he was about 4.
    - proncouncing "L" as "Y" is very common. I remember the therapist spent a while teaching DS to bring the tip of his toughe to the top of the front of his mouth when saying the "LLLLL" sound. He would have pictures of things on bits of paper which he would pick up, say the word then post it in the post box made of a shoe box. Words like shell and girl etc.
    - DS was still staying "D" for "th" sounds until he was about 6.5/7 which I was assured was completely normal.

    I would say, if in doubt then see a speech therapist but I am only saying that because I was way too relaxed about DS believing he would catch up when I should have seen a speech therapist much sooner. I don't think you have anything to worry about but it's always better to be sure now rather than have regrets in years to come.

    How's his hearing? Do you have any reason to suspect his hearing is not 100%?

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    At 2 my DS couldn't say yellow or orange, and he said 't' for 'ck' sounds, as well 'b' instead of 'v' and 'g' sounds.

    Now at 5 he is a lot clearer but still struggles with 'ck' at the end of some words and still struggles with 'gr' words like green but is improving all the time.

    A helpful trick that a speech therapist told me is to encourage them to drink using the tip of a straw. It helps strengthen the muscles used in speech. So every time DS had a cup of water I'd give him a fun curly straw. It makes them work a bit to get the water and it really did make a difference to his speech. They need to not put the straw too far into their mouth though - just the tip.

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    I also remember DS had difficulty articulating "L" sounds in words, he left it out for a long while. It got a little embarrassing when he said the word "clock".

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    Dd is two and will say

    Scissors, yellow etc things like that but she will not say BOTTLE OR APPLE!!

    She says babble. Or bobble. I don't know why? She says bird etc aeroplane her brothers name bigger words etc.

    So i have no idea ☺️

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    Wow thanks everyone for your replies! I feel a bit better now, especially since looking at the link. I had no idea that the developmental range encompassed so many years.

    I think I'll relax for a bit and keep an eye on things for the time being.

    Monnie those random words are so funny aren't they? DS said 'boo-er' instead of water for ages then randomly just said water one day. It was so weird. I always wondered if he was hearing himself say 'water' the whole time or not?

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    Something I DO remember from uni is that kids generally do hear themselves saying things correctly... if you ask them which they said, they'll tend to pick the 'correct' one, not what they said. DD definitely "corrects" us on things which she can't pronounce properly.

    Just listening to her talk to herself, and a few things she mispronounces:
    w for r - "he wan and he wan" "wabbits" etc.
    d for th (unvoiced) and v for th (voiced) "allll de over wabbits" "dis one" etc.

    She definitely recognises the sounds though. She'll say "rrr for rabbit" for example (of her own accord, not copying what she's hear), even though half the time she won't pronounce it as an 'r' in a length of speech.

    I know she says lellow, hopsital and aminals. Would definitely "correct" me if I pronounced those words that way though.


 

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