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    @Oblena yes Your partner could take the gvt PPL if you haven't used it all/at all and he is the primary carer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    At the risk of getting my head bitten off I want to ask a genuine question. If new mothers are taking their workplace's PPL which encourages them to return to work, level the playing field, reward them etc etc, why do they feel entitled to a 2nd PPL for the same reason?
    My employer offers me 4 weeks at $225 a week. I can half that to 8 weeks at $112.50 a week.
    And that is why i feel "entitled" for lack of a better word to the governments 18 week PPL.

    Without it my only option is literally 4 weeks off then back to work. Then im expected to let someone else experience the first few months with my baby while i work and miss out.
    Call me entitled but that isnt fair for me or my baby. 8 weeks wouldnt be possible cause i cant live off that.
    Last edited by MummaCat; 10-05-2015 at 17:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    At the risk of getting my head bitten off I want to ask a genuine question. If new mothers are taking their workplace's PPL which encourages them to return to work, level the playing field, reward them etc etc, why do they feel entitled to a 2nd PPL for the same reason?
    My employer also requires me to finish up 6 weeks before my due date unless i provife a dr cert. So in the new scheme if it goes through i will have to work up until i give birth and have 4 weeks off with baby OR finish up 4 weeks before baby is due and go back as soon as its born.

    Seem fair?

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    I am not having children so an 18 year old working at a child care Centre can raise my child. I want children so I can raise them but the government will be making this impossible. The thought of leaving a new born at 10 weeks old with a stranger so I can go make money to keep the roof over our head saddens me beyond belief.

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    'Double dipping' could mean the difference between some parents being able to afford to have 6 months versus 3 months off.

    Why do the budget savings have to come from the ****-knobs targeting the lower to middle class... ?They are so out of touch with the public they represent it's not funny.

    I'm glad I will gain slightly under the childcare rebate but the cuts off show once again the Government really don't understand what their constituents are living through on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MummaCat View Post
    My employer also requires me to finish up 6 weeks before my due date unless i provife a dr cert. So in the new scheme if it goes through i will have to work up until i give birth and have 4 weeks off with baby OR finish up 4 weeks before baby is due and go back as soon as its born.

    Seem fair?
    If you are still well, which I'm assuming you will be, you can get the drs cert. I'm unsure of your circumstances so it's hard to say how it should work. The govt PPL provides 18 weeks. I'm not advocating a woman live off 4 weeks of employer PPL. I'm simply saying that if it matches the current govt PPL then collecting 2 lots of PPL to me, is double dipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    But is it there to help with being at home and encouraging return to work or to replace your full pay the whole time you aren't working? I argue it's the former not the latter. Surely the parents need to be in some way responsible for saving a bit as one parent families most certainly are?

    I guess I just see huge double standards in the these threads.
    I agree that parents are definitely responsible for some savings. But if the employer wants to alleviate some of the financial pressure and stress that comes with significantly reducing your household income for a period of time when your expenses are increasing, I can't see why that's a bad thing. My employer doesn't pay parental leave, but if they did, I would see it as a reward for my contributions to the company.

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    Who cares if it's double dipping if it means a mum can stay home with her new born longer? The government aren't looking at the bigger picture at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    If you are still well, which I'm assuming you will be, you can get the drs cert. I'm unsure of your circumstances so it's hard to say how it should work. The govt PPL provides 18 weeks. I'm not advocating a woman live off 4 weeks of employer PPL. I'm simply saying that if it matches the current govt PPL then collecting 2 lots of PPL to me, is double dipping.
    But the point is not about entitlement. It's not enough. It's going backwards.

    The four weeks isn't enough.

    The 18weeks at min wage isn't enough unless you actually happen to be on minimum wage.

    Neither are enough even when combined for a whole lot of women and what the govt is proposing is less than not enough. It's backwards.

    It's saying that it's not important to allow women time to care for a baby.

    That they should suck it up. Rely on their husbands if they want the "lifestyle choice" of caring for a little baby.

    Never mind the fact that babies are the future economic drivers so that when the current generation retires there is still a workforce to pay for and deliver aged care and economic growth.

    It's bad policy, it's a rollback of the landmark paid parental leave entitlements that were so hard fought for, and its at its absolute worst for single mothers.

    As I said previously - what a thing to announce on Mother's Day.

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