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02-05-2015 10:36 #81
02-05-2015 10:36 #82
As others have mentioned, my biggest concern with this proposal is those on maternity leave etc. It's also extremely problematic for casual workers.
I've just gone on leave, but previously I was working casually. I'd work anywhere from 6 to 42 hours per week. DD would go to childcare from 4 hours to 2.5 days per week, depending on when I was working. DP would have her at other times. Even if I only had one evening shift during the week, I'd still send DD for at least a morning during the week so that she's familiar with the place and doesn't freak out having not been for a few weeks. Same thing currently... I'm on maternity leave, but I'm still sending her for 1/2 to 1.5 days per week (our centre has very low utilisation, so we can just book her in the day before). I intend to do this for the entire time that I'm on leave, which could be a year.
Technically though, once the government PPL runs out, I won't be on maternity leave. I work casually, and had only worked for my employer for about 8 months, so I'm not even entitled to unpaid leave...they've just chosen to put me "on hold". That means even if there were an exception for leave, I can't see that I'd count.
I'm rambling a little by this point, but how about SAHPs who have no support and are single parents, or have FIFO partners, or have partners like mine who work seriously ridiculous hours? If my partner's working hours were split between the two of us, then he'd be considered working full time and I'd be part time. I still have to do extra "work" by caring for our children while he's working, but because he's the one who'll get paid and I won't, we wouldn't be entitled to any support?
Ahh I dunno... I don't like it. I understand what they're trying to get at, but I think "SAHPs shouldn't use childcare" is too simplistic. Honestly, if someone stays at home and wants someone else to look after their child full time (not something that I think would be common, but seemingly the way that they can spin the moralising on this one), then I think it's better that the child be in care than with the parent!
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02-05-2015 10:54 #83
On a side note - thankyou everyone who contributed because my earlier post was misinformed and I've somewhat changed my opinion on the matter now.
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02-05-2015 11:39 #84
My friend pays $650 a week in childcare after CCB and CCR.
I want to see this ^^ change.
CCB and CCR should not be based on the combined household income, but on the lowest income the household is receiving.
I have way too many friends not working because their husband has a decent income and it means that they'd be working for nothing after childcare is paid.
As a result we have women being out of the workforce long term and not having financial independence should they ever need it.
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02-05-2015 11:46 #85Senior Member
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I'd be screwed. Sometimes things don't turn out like you planned. I had my first and we decided I would be a sahm and I never planned on using childcare, didn't need it etc etc.
Coming up to two and half and he had speech delays and development delays and I wasn't socialising as much as I thought I would, was advised by numerous people to put him in daycare to help. Also had number two.
Number three comes along at same time as my first is diagnosed with asd. Develop severe pnd, hospitalised. So my first is now enrolled in preschool two days a week, my second in childcare two days a week and I'm still struggling to function. I never believed in using childcare unless you were working. I come from view now that even just one day can make a difference for struggling mums. Are we really going to punish the many who need this help because of the few who take advantage? Ccb is only applied to two days and only takes a percentage off. It's not like it's cheap or free for sahm as it is.
I can't go to playgroups my asd child doesn't cope well in those situations. I rarely make it out the house.
Childcare days means I can take my first to therapy, attend numerous appts for myself.
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02-05-2015 11:48 #86
02-05-2015 11:50 #87
02-05-2015 11:59 #88
No more subsidised childcare for non-working parents?
Government spending has to be targeted at increasing workplace participation and for supporting people who can't work or need a short term lift. For everything else you need to own your choices.
02-05-2015 12:09 #89
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02-05-2015 12:19 #90
No more subsidised childcare for non-working parents?
Some people consider certain university degrees to be follies and self-indulgent luxuries. Some people look at certain careers the same way, that they don't contribute to society in a meaningful way. Should these people be less entitled to HECS/HELP/Austudy/CCR?
We are all to a certain extent dependent on government money in our lives, and I don't think SAHMs need to justify any one of a myriad of reasons why they might choose to access CC.
That mum who uses half a day to coffee with friends and watch Dr Phil may be on the edge of a breakdown and this contact with reality keeps her going for the rest of the week. Or someone might be suffering from PTSD after a traumatic incident and it's not appropriate to drag her toddler along to her psychologist's appointment. We just don't know. Even when we think we know everything about a friend we just might not.
It's not up to anyone to judge.
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