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02-05-2015 12:20 #91
02-05-2015 12:41 #92
It's not about judging. It's about directing scarce government funds into areas that benefit the most. Government needs to increase work force participation, it benefits the tax base, more workforce participants means more spending in the community which equals more jobs. This is what the government aims for.
Directing financial incentives to SAHP really makes very little government sense, people are out of the workforce, potentially becoming unemployable, not contributing to their retirement savings, so of course the government wants people back in the workforce.
That is what this policy is about. It is not a personal judgement on why people use CC. It is about best possible government spending.
And as long as Preschool continues to be universally available, children who are at risk can access child care, those that are studying or job seeking can access child care and those whose medical professional recommends it can access child care (all with subsidies), I really don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.
I am supportive of people using child care for whatever reason, but, unless it is needed to attend work, study, job seeking (or other at risk areas) then you should pay for it. I really don't see the issue.
02-05-2015 13:09 #93
I cannot get my daughter into the very popular c & k, and it costs heaps more than the kindy room in cc anyway which I can't afford to pay. She goes to kindy in cc because that works best for us. Like I said in my first post, this is an invaluable service for us, she loves it and is doing so well. She hadn't been in cc previously so we aren't "taking advantage ", I can't yet work as I have another at home still, and as it stands our cc has many, many free spaces in every day in every room.
Take away ccb for us, and she loses her kindy in the year before she goes to school.
02-05-2015 13:11 #94
I just think this whole argument that SAHM's aren't worthy bc they don't pay tax and financially contribute is flawed. A woman working casual/part time, paying basically no tax and getting the CCR is getting the same financial support as I get on FTB and the one day of 30% CCB I have received in the past.
This isn't saying working mums aren't worthy, or valuable or shouldn't get CCR. Quite the opposite. but if we are going to look at it in strictly financial terms like you say..... well I question the whole argument.
02-05-2015 13:38 #95Junior Member
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02-05-2015 13:39 #96
The issue is that with these changes the attitude of 'if you want it then pay for it' means that some people won't be able to pay for it and therefore won't be able to access it. There are people on this thread who have expressed this. And that to me is inequitable, given that there are many reasons why SAHP make this choice. And sometimes it's not even a matter of choice.
I am also uneasy with the idea that humans only have value and are worthy of government support if they contribute financially to society. I'm not saying that you are specifically saying this, but it's just a general thought.
02-05-2015 13:42 #97Senior Member
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When I was a kid, there used to be creche.
I wonder whatever happened to that.
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02-05-2015 13:44 #98
@delerium. I don't personally know about that, I guess most of my peer group are professional women and even working part time contribute significantly to the tax pool. I don't really know anyone that just works school hours a day or two a week.
It is not saying SAHP are not worthy, but that child care is a necessity for working or studying or at risk families, it is not needed for any other reason so why do government funds need to be directed towards it for any other reason?
I don't include Preschool in this, I think universal access to Preschool is a must.
02-05-2015 13:46 #99
And yes, some people might not be able to afford CC when things change, but that is life, sometimes you can't afford everything you want. I would like to increase my son's Preschool day by another day but unless I pick up another day of work I can't afford it, so I don't. If you are that keen for your kids to attend CC and you can't afford it, you either don't, or you find a way to earn more money.
02-05-2015 13:54 #100
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