Interestingly their earlier stance was much stronger
The Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons does not support the routine circumcision of male neonates, infants or children in Australia. It is considered to be inappropriate and unnecessary as a routine to remove the prepuce, based on the current evidence available. We do not support the removal of a normal part of the body, unless there are definite indications to justify the complications and risks which may arise. In particular, we are opposed to male children being subjected to a procedure, which had they been old enough to consider the advantages and disadvantages, may well have opted to reject the operation and retain their prepuce.
— The Australasian Association of Paediatric Surgeons, “Guidelines for circumcision”, 1996
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13-04-2015 16:36 #21
13-04-2015 16:39 #22
13-04-2015 16:40 #23
Homeopathic vaccines and subluxation work, right?
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13-04-2015 16:45 #24
By comparison, circumcision is a family, religious and cultural practice that is undertaken by/on less than 20% of the population and delivers some possible medical benefits that are comparatively far more minor than the benefits of vaccination against preventable disease.
For example the claim that it reduces the risk of cancer of the penis would be significant if this was a very prevalent condition, but it's not - it's extremely rare and not passed from person to person unwittingly the way whooping cough can be, with devastating consequences.
Likewise the claim that circumcision as a treatment may reduce the treatment of HPV doesn't stand up to the fact that there's a far less invasive way to reduce HPV through the Gardasil vaccine.
Following the principle of 'first, so no harm' I can't see an argument at all for removing a piece of a mans penis when a vaccine is as effective and less invasive.
So it's not really apples with apples and more the sort of nonsense anti-vax article that pops up to argue against immunisation.
All that aside, if your fundamental question is: would you use a treatment that had significant benefits for a child and some downsides then yes I would, and I would expect public health policy makers to deliver health policy on the basis of significant evidence to encourage that treatment. I've read numerous accounts from mums of very sick babies who all say they'd try anything to protect their babies, so if there was another real example then I think it's a no brainer.... but using circumcision as an example is just trying to start a bubhub bunfight.
13-04-2015 16:47 #25
There is a lot of cultural bias attached to recommendations made by any American based organisation. It is still the done thing in America so of cause they're not going to say "Hey, we don't recommend it but go for it all you like".
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13-04-2015 16:49 #26
13-04-2015 16:53 #27
It's apples and oranges though. Whether I circ or don't circ my son doesn't affect a whole community. Research does show that circed men have a lower rate of HPV and other STD transmission. But according to the anti circ argument that is solved with condoms. And the HPV vax
The crux of the pro vax argument is that you aren't just risking your child's life. You are risking everyone's safety, particularly the most vulnerable - newborns, the elderly, immuno-compromised people. Circing isn't the same.
13-04-2015 16:55 #28
13-04-2015 16:59 #29
For example cervical cancer is one of the most detectable and treatable cancers out there, again readily detectable and avoided through Pap smears and Gardasil which are far less invasive than removing part of an appendage.
13-04-2015 17:05 #30
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