I thought Greys Anatomy was bad until a friend told me that her niece works in the medical profession and it's worse.
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08-03-2015 13:56 #11
08-03-2015 14:05 #12
Oh wow, how terrible
08-03-2015 16:41 #13
DP and I have been talking a lot about this article.
DP is a doctor (has been since early 1990s) but works in the ED, he has not seen anything like what she is referring to (nor heard of it occurring within ED). He did say that he wasn't surprised that it was within surgical professions.
It is very disturbing to read and I don't think she is doing her profession any favours by her comments.
08-03-2015 16:46 #14
I'd heard it's bad for fire fighters but had no idea about surgeons.
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08-03-2015 17:11 #15
Seriously?! Umm no, just no. That is wrong and it needs to be addressed and not just told its the 'norm' and its to be accepted and to be expected.
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08-03-2015 17:23 #16
08-03-2015 17:33 #17
This is one of the reasons rape culture is still so prominent and damaging. "She would have been better off to just give him the blow job", "If your approached for sex you should just do it" & "If you are harrassed do not complain about it because you wont ever get a job"
How are statements like these st ill being made!? Does the harassment ever cross a line and make it okay?! A woman had a man pull his **** out at her and she dared open her mouth about it so she is punished and cant find a job! What if he had gone further and forced her into sex or sex acts? Would it be okay to complain then or would victim blaming then still say "Oh she should have just said yes and everything would be fine?"
And why can't she get a job now? Is it soley because noone wants a woman who will say no and will actually do something about it if that no is not recognized?
Sorry for posting twice. I just couldn't get this off my mind. Its discusting.
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08-03-2015 17:36 #18
I am horrified but I just did a bit of a google.
She is in fact in private practice. She is working and seems to be a successful neurosurgeon in private practice in Melbourne but she has sought appointments in public hospitals and hasn't ever been successful when applying for those.
The whole thing does make me though, how very very awful for her and others who have been faced with the same situation
08-03-2015 18:12 #19
I don't think we should be outraged that this woman made these comments but that she is correct!
We really need to remember to aim our anger at those who abuse their positions of power and subject young womens to this disgusting behavior and not at those who are brave enough to speak publicly about it. X
08-03-2015 18:20 #20Senior Member
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However, Surgical training is notoriously archaic, and still extremely male-dominated. As a result of this culture, it is very hard for a woman to succeed. So, sadly, I am not surprised by the comments made by this Surgeon. And I doubt she was making it up. She probably thought she was being pragmatic, and helpful, to female trainees. But I agree, it is very depressing that this situation still exists in 2015.
Medical training is very hard; after finishing 7 years of Medical School, the training just begins! Internship, 2-3 Resident years, then 5-6 Registrar years to qualify in a given Specialty. And the pay before you specialise is certainly not amazing. Then, as a woman, try to fit in children amongst this. My point?...it's not easy, and I can see how young female doctors could be placed in a position where "agreeing to sex" would seem like the most practical option.
I'm not saying it is right, by any means.
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