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14-02-2015 20:27 #31
14-02-2015 20:28 #32
As far as I'm concerned the AFP has the blood of two Australian human beings on their hands.
It's not about condoning drug trafficking. It's about the fact that the death penalty dehumanises us to the basest level of instinct over reason, that it devalues human life and inflict s pain and suffering on innocent family members. Life in prison and deprivation of liberty is sufficient punishment for me.
@Apple iPhart6 the only thing that could make me take pause against my anti death penalty stance would probably be if someone did something to DS. But I still believe that I would be against it.
Tbh I don't actually care if they are rehabilitated or not. The whole thing distresses me.
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14-02-2015 20:32 #33Senior Member
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14-02-2015 20:32 #34
I stand for mercy. Always. What's happening over in Indonesia at the moment is incredibly distressing. If I feel this distressed about it I can only imagine the horror that is facing their families right now.
It is wrong, plain and simple. Wrong.
14-02-2015 20:34 #35
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14-02-2015 20:34 #36
I stand for mercy...
I vehemently oppose death penalty in any case. But these 2 people were not just drug mules, they were co ring leaders. They had no regard for the lives of the mules or the people they were selling drugs to.
But...The bottom line is that they shouldn't be saved because they've been rehabilitated but because they're human beings.
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14-02-2015 20:48 #37
I stand for mercy.
It brings tears to my eyes every time I see a headline about them.
I watched an interview with Ben Quilty (sp?) on the abc site today and I had a cry.
There is utterly no evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent (for any crime). This is all about the politics and it makes me sick that these two men (who by all accounts have changed their lives around) are probably going to pay with their lives.
So again....I stand for mercy and I feel so deeply for their families.
14-02-2015 21:19 #38
By executing these men the Indonesian government is essentially denying that their prison system is capable of rehabilitating inmates. If they placed any value at all in rehabilitation, they would show mercy for inmates who have made the positive changes that these guys have reportedly made.
While I believe that they knowingly took part in a very dangerous crime, with full understanding of the risks of caught, I will never agree that the death penalty is justifiable. Compared to the penalty given to the Bali bombing perpetrator, it just doesn't make sense.
14-02-2015 21:22 #39
14-02-2015 21:27 #40Senior Member
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I'm feeling sick about this and dreading hearing the news! Can't begin to imagine what they and their families are going through! Yes they made a stupid mistake but they have spent the last 10 years learning from that mistake and are clearly reformed! To execute them now (in such and in humane way) is just ********! I can't get my head around it! It's heartbreaking!!
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