I know the hospital and I know the area where the baby was found. That hospital looks after women with a huge range of cultural and social issues. It would not be uncommon for women to leave there alone or by public transport, or go home to less than ideal environments.
Every time I see something about this story I feel like I want to vomit. I'm so glad the baby is alive, but who knows what impact this mothers actions will have on him. I don't know her story but I struggle to feel sympathy for her. What a horrible thing to do to a tiny little person.
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24-11-2014 14:46 #91
24-11-2014 14:48 #92
24-11-2014 14:52 #93
I have no empathy for the monster who put her baby down a hole to die. None whatsoever. SHE is to blame for what happened to this baby, not the hospital, or midwives, or anybody else. I only wish that somebody, anybody, had forseen that this poor baby didn't stand a chance at survival with his "mother". Not blaming anyone, just wishing and wondering how she blindsided everyone.
24-11-2014 15:08 #94
24-11-2014 15:16 #95
It's hard to know what to make of this story. I've heard different variations in the news, one: he was almost a week old, two: he was only 2 days old. It just goes to show you can't believe everything in the news.
In relation to the mother we have no idea what was going on in her life that lead her to make this decision. Maybe she does have a mental illness, but maybe not. Perhaps she has a history with DOCS and she didn't want another baby, maybe not. Perhaps something terrible happened to her that lead to the pregnancy and she was frightened and saw the drain as a way out, maybe not. My point is all of this is simply speculation. Regardless of what was going on in her life, what she did is a horrible thing and we have to trust that the justice system will do what's right.
There should be no blame on the hospital/midwives. There is no way possible that you can know everything about someone when they come in to birth. You only know as much as they tell you, and people lie. People lie all the time. They omit the truth because they don't want people to know. If she wasn't booked at the hospital, they wouldn't know anything about her history, the FOB etc. When attending to home visits, you rely on women giving you the correct address, correct phone number and being home at the time of the visit. If I turn up at someone's house and they're not there I don't wait around to see if they come back or try and come back later that day. I ring their provided phone number and leave a note in their letterbox. I don't have time to be chasing people. I spend a maximum of 10mins knocking at the door/ringing phones and then it's too bad. We do go back the next day, but again if the same thing happens that's it for us. We send them a letter and tell them to see their GP for follow up.
So many women in the public system have multiple social issues and it's not up to us to solve their problems. All we can do is ensure the correct social supports are in place to help them and we can only do that if we know about them.
24-11-2014 15:35 #96
People need to fight for better funding for their hospitals and vote for socially just parties. Not vote economically rationalist govts in then complain the public services suck and blame the staff trying to deal with the crap conditions and resources.
And what happened to self responsibility??? When did it happen that we just turn to everything and everyone else to blame? Short of psychosis, which from reading she doesn't have, she CHOSE to put the baby there. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve support, counselling and services. She absolutely does. But come on. There are mentally unwell women who don't do this.
24-11-2014 15:44 #97
24-11-2014 15:54 #98Senior Member
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This is one of those things that doesn't quite add up in my head, so I'm withholding judgement against the mother until I get more information.
I am very glad the baby was found safe and we'll.
24-11-2014 16:05 #99
I must be the Wicked Witch of the West cause im over here judging my heart out.
Mental illness does not justify murdering anybody, let alone a defenseless being.
The hospital and midwives have nothing to do with this disgusting womens actions.
Details dont excuse someone from anything. Its making me ill reading so many people stick up for her. Its like hearing about a gang rape and waiting to hear whether she was wearing a short skirt to see if it was justified. Wth.
Details mean nothing in an act like this. I hope she rots away in prison.
24-11-2014 16:10 #100
I'm appalled at the way the media have handled this story. Imo, it should not even be on the news. It's an awful situation but peoples reactions and attacks are just as vile!
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