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    the problem with saying religious institutions shouldn't be tax exempt is that they are - generally speaking - not for profit.

    Any attempt to make them taxable would have a flow on effect on other charitable institutions


    It sticks though Churches own so much land in Australia ...

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    Yes, I'm aware of a lot of their beliefs. Honestly, I don't think it's any more crazy than any other religion.

    It seems more "out there" because the beliefs vary a bit from the standard return-from-the-dead, god speaking to you, miracles etc... but it's no less believable as far as I'm concerned.

    The one thing that makes scientology stand out to me is its origins. Sci-fi writer, followers are required to spend ridiculous amounts of money to 'advance' etc. Seems a bit suss. But that's not relevant when assessing whether something is actually REAL or not. What matters isn't how suspect something might seem, but the actual claims that are made. In that sense, I think it's on par with any other religion.

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    Default Should Scientology be allowed to buy up big land in Australia?

    I guess if I'm about freedom to practise any faith in Australia, which I am, then I have to be ok with it. I've read enough about Scientology and their recruitment and retention practices though that it makes me slightly uneasy.

    ETA I don't think the grammar in that last sentence is correct but I can't figure it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BH-KatiesMum View Post
    the problem with saying religious institutions shouldn't be tax exempt is that they are - generally speaking - not for profit.

    Any attempt to make them taxable would have a flow on effect on other charitable institutions
    Here's the thing though...any other not-for-profit has to jump through MASSIVE hoops to receive tax-exempt status. They have to prove that their activities are beneficial to the public good etc. Religious institutions have that assumed for them.

    I have no issue with religious institutions being able to GAIN tax-exempt status, but I think that the playing field should be leveled. All organisations should have the same standards of proof to meet.

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    Haha... you don't have to convince me that all other religions sound just as bizarre!

    …I'm just surprised that people are so "accepting" of such a large dodgy movement, simply because it considers itself a religion.

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    yes - religions are assumed to be charitable, however they do have to prove that they meet the requirements (for tax purposes) of being a religion to be granted tax exempt status. Still lots of hoops to jump through.

    (and in the case of Scientology I was of the understanding that the ATO did actually challenge it in court, but I could be wrong)

    Again - the problem is that legislation cant be written specifically for one set of people or circumstances ... it has to encompass everyone. However companies, trusts, even religions can be set up to exploit loopholes that fancy lawyers and accountants are paid to find. its hard

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    They muck with people's mental health - openly and intentionally.

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    [QUOTE=FiveInTheBed;8005464]They muck with people's mental health - openly and intentionally.[/QUOTE
    Which religion doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BbBbBh View Post
    Which religion doesn't?
    I'm not sure what other religions views on anti depression meds and other behavioural medication is, I'll have to research it.
    Unless you can fill me in, do all religions ban them?

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    [QUOTE=FiveInTheBed;8005478]
    Quote Originally Posted by BbBbBh View Post

    I'm not sure what other religions views on anti depression meds and other medication is, I'll have to research it.
    Unless you can fill me in, do all religions ban them?

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    Many religions are against birth control. There was a Catholic pharmacist in regional NSW that stopped stocking birth control because it goes against his beliefs. I can guarantee that unwanted pregnancies can greatly impact one's mental wellbeing.

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