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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    OMG the ignorance astounds me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    Not true. Most VPDs are viruses and they cannot be treated with antibiotics. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Chicken Pox, Hepatitis, rotavirus, Flu - all viruses. And whilst antibiotics are given for whooping cough infection I would hardly consider it a simple matter of antibiotic treatment. There is nothing that will take away the terrible 'whooping' cough and risk of complications. Babies and children are particularly vulnerable even with antibiotics and do still die.

    This is a perfect example of why so many pro vaxxers get frustrated with the anti vax movement. They claim to be educated on the VPDs but they are clearly getting their facts from flawed sources.
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    One in 15 develop pneumonia - that is nothing to sneeze at - anyone who thinks measles isn't dangerous is in denial.

    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    Measles is a serious and highly contagious viral disease which causes fever, runny nose, cough and sore red eyes, followed by a rash. Measles can sometimes lead to dangerous complications such as pneumonia. About one person in 1,000 who contracts measles will develop inflammation of the brain. For every 10 children who become affected in this way, one will die and many will have permanent brain damage. Measles still causes deaths in Australia. A rare condition called SSPE can develop several years after a measles infection. SSPE rapidly destroys the brain and is always fatal.Measles can be caught through coughs and sneezes from an infected person before that person realises they are sick.

    http://www.health.vic.gov.au/immunis...sheets/mmr.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    @J37 correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware most VPDs are unable to be treated by antibiotics as they are viral
    eg. rubella, mumps, measles, chickenpox, polio, hep A/B, influenza, rotavirus, HPV



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    So maybe the book title should change "Melanie's marvellous measles with a side of pneumonia -but don't worry they have antibiotics now - only a few thousand people will die of pneumonia a year..even with antibiotics"

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    You are right.
    @J37 isn't whooping cough only able to be treated with antibiotics within the first week - and it lessens symptoms not cures the disease. And as well all know - most people are diagnosed until well after a week anyway rendering antibiotics ineffective for whooping cough generally even though it is bacterial?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky1 View Post
    @J37 correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware most VPDs are unable to be treated by antibiotics as they are viralYou are
    eg. rubella, mumps, measles, chickenpox, polio, hep A/B, influenza, rotavirus, HPV



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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    Given you are strongly anti vax, I would suggest doing some research on these diseases. Please.

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    I do not understand how someone can be so blasé about putting other people at risk of DYING especially children!

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    Um seriously? Good grief. ..I would hate to think this is the attitude of most anti vaxxers. Antibiotics? Really? ?
    If my DD who is immune compromised got whooping cough or measles.... I can't even say the words.
    Do you know that there are many hundreds of children who are at risk of developing problems from getting a vpd? Children who are like my DD. With heart conditions or kidney disease or cancer. Just to name a few. They could die from a common cold. So a vpd is much much worse. A simple dose of antibiotics from the gp won't help this problem. They rely on healthy kids and adults having vaccines to help protect them. As do the elderly and the newborns.
    There are many kids who are NOT treated successfully from these diseases.

    And Anyway. .. If just one child dies from a vpd isn't that one too many?

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