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    Question Herd Immunity: Fact or fiction?

    Been reading about herd immunity a little, there are those who feel it is a myth.

    Thoughts on the content of these two articles asserting herd immunity is in fact a myth?

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/20...sell-blaylock/

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/20...umphries-md-3/

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    Def fact to me. Not only the massive drop in VPD's since vaxxes were introduced but transmission has steeply dropped. We see outbreaks when people stop vaxxing their kids and rates fall below 85%. I can't see how it can be refuted tbh.

    I haven't read the links. I've been sick all morning and can barely muster even typing this response lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Def fact to me. Not only the massive drop in VPD's since vaxxes were introduced but transmission has steeply dropped. We see outbreaks when people stop vaxxing their kids and rates fall below 85%. I can't see how it can be refuted tbh.

    I haven't read the links. I've been sick all morning and can barely muster even typing this response lol
    I agree with all of this.

    A quick google of the authors tells me they're pretty anti vax. It's always going to be hard to get an unbiased view on this subject (in my opinion anyway) as both sides are pretty set in their ways and have strong beliefs.

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    100% fact. Herd immunity (from high rates of vaccination) is the reason that those of us fortunate enough to live today in this country rarely come into contact with VPDs.
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    Fact.
    Currently, the studies are overwhelmingly in favour of herd immunity. Why would I disagree with that?

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    Fact for me. How do you think smallpox was eradicated? There certainly wasn't 100% vax rate. Now we don't need to vax for it anymore. Herd immunity! Polio is almost non-existent in our country but has had a massive resurgence in areas where religious groups ban vaccination & vax rates drop below a certain %

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    Definitely fact.
    Without even reading into science on it. .. The decrease worldwide in vpds is evident. Common sense can tell you is fact.
    I've never seen a person with polio or had a friend with TB. I've been in contact with measles as a small child but have been teaching now 15+ years and never had a case of measles or WC in my classroom. And yet I have taught children who weren't vaccinated for various reasons.

    Herd immunity through immunizations is fact. Not a myth.

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    Thoughts on the particular articles, I meant, not general thoughts. (Edited OP to be clearer!!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    Fact.
    Currently, the studies are overwhelmingly in favour of herd immunity. Why would I disagree with that?
    Agree. I liken it to climate change. The fact a handful of studies 'prove' climate change is myth doesn't make it myth, nor mitigate the other 95% of studies that do find climate change is real. You can find a study to prove anything really. Doesn't mean it's fact. Being a scientific study doesn't automatically remove bias, or bad methodology, or small cohorts etc.

    I hope I haven't worded that badly.
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