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17-07-2014 21:19 #1
Are there any employee relations experts on here?
Last edited by CanadianKangaroo; 19-07-2014 at 02:29.
17-07-2014 21:55 #2Junior Member
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If he being paid above award wages, then there is no requirement to give a pay rise beyond that. He wants more money? Accept the deal or look for another role. Simple. It's certainly not illegal
17-07-2014 21:58 #3
well - its legal. they are paying him above award rates, and essentially paying overtime for the additional hours he is doing.
Whether he is happy with it is a totally different story
17-07-2014 22:52 #4Senior Member
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They don't owe him a pay rise. If he is unhappy with his current wage, I would look for another job. If it is a small business perhaps they aren't in the position to increase his salary? He sounds like he has it pretty good with a company car & above award wage. A company car certainly cuts out a lot of extra expenses for you.
18-07-2014 04:29 #5
Do you know what the conversation was between him and his employer? As in, perhaps it could have been a conversation about him needing to earn more $$$ not in relation to an actual raise as such.
It is very awkward when an employee asks to earn more but there is no legal obligation to pay them more. Regardless of how long someone has worked, it can be seen as unfair to other employees to just up someones hourly rate because they asked for it -especially in the private sector. 4yrs isn't very long to be with the same employer (unless its seasonal work) so I'm not sure that would have been a big bargaining tool for your DH.
Just putting it out there, but your DH might be 'pussy footing around it' as he may feel as though if he rocks the boat he could end up out of a job.
I'd suggest that if he is truly unhappy with his work conditions, to start looking elsewhere discreetly. If he starts getting close to landing another job, his time to 'bargain' with his bosses would be when he already has a firm employment offer elsewhere. That way, if they really want to keep him they may pay him a higher hourly rate... Or if they don't, he has another option to take.
18-07-2014 04:52 #6
^^^ this exactly
18-07-2014 04:58 #7
We only get payrise based on CPI ( and even then sometimes it's below ), we are just above award rates. If he's above then that buffer is already built it for him.
Was it really worth it tax wise? This sounds like it's pushed him into the next rate so most will be eaten in tax anyway.
He's lucky he only has to do a few extra hours, they could have made him salary and expected many more out of him ( and effectively be worse off per hour)
18-07-2014 05:53 #8
Last edited by CanadianKangaroo; 19-07-2014 at 06:13.
18-07-2014 05:54 #9
Oh and he is salary.
18-07-2014 05:55 #10
That's why it irritates me so much. Most of the time he works extra hours anyway and always goes above and beyond but I hate that it's now an obligation.
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