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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey'sMummy View Post
    If Middlebrook Estate thought their staff were in the right, then why did they delete both their Facebook accounts & website after this mum complained? They are obviously trying to avoid the backlash because management know their staff were out of line.

    Whether the venue should or shouldn't provide a place to express is irrelevant - bottom line the staff made comments about her, belittled her with regards to her wanting to express & that is discrimination under the sexual discrimination act....
    I agree that the staff were out of line with their rude comments and attitude. However I really don't see how it's discrimination! They offered her a place to express and it wasn't good enough for her. As a PP said, it may not be appropriate for a customer to use staff areas as they may contain staff belongings and other things that customers shouldn't have access to.

    I agree that they probably deleted their FB to avoid the backlash, but I think it's because people go so crazy when anything even remotely linked to breastfeeding has a negative outcome.


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    Legally, she is 100% supported by the anti-discrimination act. I ran an event at a hotel where I had an expressing mother attend. The hotel were incredibly accommodating, and actually provided a hotel room for her to use during the day. Pumping mothers have the same rights as breast feeding mothers - she could have done it in the middle of the restaurant if she'd wanted to. Giving management a heads up would have been a good move, but at the end of the day, she's not in the wrong.
    They didn't tell her that she couldn't express though and offered her a corner in a room as that was the most privacy they could offer. It was a winery, not a hotel so they probably didn't have a spare room that was OK for customers to use.

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    Yep, the staff were rude but I also don't see why she couldn't pump and dump in the toilet? I went to a music festival when my DS was about 7 months (couldn't miss Blink 182 ☺️) and I pumped and dumped in the toilets. It wasn't the most fun ever, but I knew what I was getting myself in for when I left DS at home!

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    @JR03 what place did they offer?

    I wouldn't pump and dump in the toilets TBH.

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    What's wrong with pumping and dumping in the toilets? I've had friends do it on a (rare) night out. It just seems logical to me. The comments from the staff were rude though.. Not discrimination though.

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    Tbh she sounds very entitled. There are plenty of people who need access to private space when in public - ivf'ers or diabetics injecting, those with prosthetics, list goes on. They make do with the loo if there's nowhere else available - that is the private space a business is obligated to provide.

    It's all just over the top really.

    There was nothing stopping her from pumping in the restaurant, I can't imagine anybody caring beyond a cursory glance to see what she is doing. And any sink or patch of dirt is good enough to chuck breast milk down.

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    She sounds very entitled, and I can imagine how she got their back up, although the staff should have refrained from making any comments like TMI.

    So many people are like this... It's a shame.

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    Rude staff - yes

    Blown out of proportion - possibly

    Discrimination - hardly

    Where I work(ed) there's no way you would be allowed into a staff only area. It is even classed as a bf friendly environment but there is no private spaces to do so. You can just do it anywhere without being told otherwise.

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    Given the described comments and staff attitude she was discriminated against.

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    If she were a member of staff, her employer would have been legally obliged to provide her somewhere to express in private (and toilets ARE NOT legally acceptable). How is it a stretch to think your customers might need the same? Especially if you have thousands of visitors each year.

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    The comments from staff were out of line, but beyond that I don't see an issue.

    I spent 7 weeks carrying a breast pump in my handbag and it wasn't so I could get tanked at a winery.
    I always thought about where I could express before I left the house and whether I would be able to store the milk.
    I used the toilet to pump on occasion, poured the milk down the sink and rinsed the pump. If I wasn't comfortable with that I would have phoned the venue in advance and asked if there was somewhere more appropriate and if the answer was no, I wouldn't have gone.

    The same goes for breastfeeding. I was comfortable to breastfeed in the presence of anyone, but if I wasn't I would have phoned and decided upon the answer.

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