If it is an food safety/ handling issue, then how is the industry meant to deal with women who are 2 or 3 months pregnant and not showing.
I would prefer the presumption is that pregnant women can source the guidelines for them selves, and chose to what degree they follow them.
A ingredient included in a dish that may be considered a risk, ie: raw egg, should be clearly stated on the menu I think, as, once again how do you decide who may be pregnant. (and how many patrons do you possibly offend in the process).
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08-06-2014 13:26 #41Senior Member
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08-06-2014 14:17 #42
I think in an instance like this, probably the INTENT of the person is the most important thing. Obviously the intent was a good, caring and helpful one, and really that is what is important isn't it?
08-06-2014 14:45 #43Senior Member
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08-06-2014 15:11 #44
PS: that's 'my friend has a phd and specialises in bacteria and viruses' information
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08-06-2014 15:15 #45
So many decisions to be made as a mum or mum-to-be, we each need to choose what works for us as individuals.
08-06-2014 16:07 #46
Everyone does there own risk assessment of what they are comfortable eating. Providing people are doing this based on facts, I have no issue with the decisions that individuals make.
08-06-2014 16:30 #47
It wouldn't have sat well with me if a chef advised what I should or shouldn't eat. It's not his place. I would have told him to mind his own business.
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08-06-2014 16:32 #48Senior Member
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Listeria is a bit different, but again you can't assume that risky foods in sealed packaging are safe because the infectious agents can (and do) contaminate the food during manufacturing (after pasteurisation) so are present inside the packaging. Pasteurisation reduces the risk relative to raw milk products, but listeria outbreaks do still occur in pasteurised dairy products. Listeria can survive and grow in sealed packaging in the fridge and once there, you need to heat the food to kill the bugs.
The FSANZ website has some good information sheets on recommendations for pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems. The recommendations are evidence-based, meaning there is science behind their recommendations. By all means eat what you like, but you should be aware that the risk exists. In some respects, a chef warning you about the meat not being cooked through is no different to warning you that the food contains peanuts, gluten or dairy. What you do with that information is up to you.
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08-06-2014 16:38 #49
That's why I'd recommend any pregnant woman to get tested for immunization to toxoplasmosis.
If you are immune, that's one worry off the list and you can enjoy your medium rare steak
08-06-2014 16:40 #50
That's cool and I agree, everyone has to make their own risk assessment on what they think is safe. We make our own cheeses, have eggs from our own chickens etc so what I eat when pregnant at home will probably be a bit different to what I eat from cafés or shops.
I just wanted to clarify when you said pasteurisation has "no impact" on listeria, that it does in fact kill it, but storage and handling afterwards can cause the product to become re-contaminated. Just incase anyone else was confused
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