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    Here is an interesting article about the efficacy of the testing in NZ.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/paula-benn...-drug-testing/

    The first batch of results are in and the figures are shocking. Of 8,001 beneficiaries sent for testing only 22, yes 22, either failed the test or refused to take it. This is a fail rate of 0.27%. It appears that the state has paid in the vicinity of $1 million on testing beneficiaries who have given clean results.
    Bennett with typical spin says that the result shows that the policy is working. Not knowing what the figure was before and having done no analysis whatsoever has not stopped her from coming to such a conclusion.
    The CTU and beneficiary advocacy groups are calling for the policy to be scrapped.
    The scheme is a colossal waste of time and money. Our taxpayer money is being burned so that Bennett can look like she is being tough on beneficiaries.

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    You wouldn't be tested every week I doubt the government could afford that it would most likely be once off or random & drug tests don't need to be done by peeing in a cup tests can be done by saliva.

    Edit- also like Centrelink appointments if you can't attend Because you had work or a doctors note they can reschedule. in the article in the WA paper it says it's only looking at people who don't have a job and have been on a 'looking for work' benefit for a number or years so they most likely wouldn't be testing you.
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    really? Saliva? All mine have been urine.

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    Yes saliva ever been through a police stop ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Maybe I should reword it .
    Anyone who is on a payment and refuse to do it are probably doing drugs why else would people refuse to get tested for their payment ? .
    Because it's humiliating, degrading and reeks of an infringement of civil liberties. Some people are simply opposed to this kind of policy. The more I think about it the more offensive and stupid it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkingMaid View Post
    It's recent. I forget, are you living in NZ now? Or are you talking about where you used to live in NZ?
    No I've been in Oz for 5 years now, I was speaking of where I grew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Yes saliva ever been through a police stop ?
    only a blow into the gizmo one, they must have caught sight of my halo

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    Yeh .. Or it was just a alcohol stop ..... I live in a bad area and they regularly have drug buses & stops for cars to drug test .

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    Same, never, ever been drug tested by the police, of course, I am a pillar of the community and all

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    only a blow into the gizmo one, they must have caught sight of my halo

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    I don't support this at all!

    But....if they are going to implement this then they need to increase funding to drug rehab services, they need to increase funding in the mental health service area overall. Obviously this government has no intention of increasing funding to the above areas, so it won't work. It will increase crime rate, very likely increase overdose risk and also increase people selling drugs cheaply with dangerous 'additives'.

    The rates of drug addiction won't come under control unless there is overall policy change and that is very unlikely to happen. Have a look into Portugal, they had an overall policy change and are having very interesting results.

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