Couldn't agree more regarding your points and those of other posters about the current government however I don't feel this is a good enough reason to throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak. I think drug policy in general has to change as we are far behind other countries in how best to manage these problems and sadly are developing some of the highest rates of usage in the world.
I hate to say it but this information may be a government plan to assess the problem, ie getting hard figures on rates of use etc so that specific groups can be identified and targeted for early intervention. Also there is an addicts register in existence of course however I really don't know whether identification through drug testing is going to end up giving you a label on some government database, presumably so, somewhere, and who knows where that could end up or who would have access to it, and this is a concern.
Will it be a good thing? Only time will tell, but I think that the unemployed are fair game for drug testing just like everybody else.
The times they are a-changin.
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01-06-2014 10:03 #21
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01-06-2014 10:28 #23Senior Member
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I thought this was a Pregnancy and Parenting Forum. Threads like this tend to isolate people like me who are not "anti-government". Just saying.
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01-06-2014 10:49 #24
Are you suggesting we should never discuss anything other than pregnancy and parenting issues? I have no desire to isolate people - absolutely not. I fully appreciate that this forum helps a whole lot of people connect with others. Gosh, it's certainly helped me over the years! However, some of us would also like to stretch the old grey matter upstairs and discuss complex issues that aren't directly related to pregnancy and parenting.
Don't forget there are people on this forum who are on the dole or who may have children or family members on the dole so this issue may potentially be affecting them.
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01-06-2014 11:01 #25
01-06-2014 11:03 #26
This thread is not anti government either. Rather anti stupid policies.
01-06-2014 11:06 #27
01-06-2014 11:16 #28
anyway to answer VP's OP I don't think this could ever get implemented and would be a terrible "solution" to a real problem.
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01-06-2014 11:23 #29
So more addicts will break into peoples houses at night kill the occupants in a drug induced psychoviolent manner to steal their stuff to pay for drugs
An elderly couple recently just got beaten to death for this reason.
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01-06-2014 11:46 #30
They've been doing this in NZ for a little while now, so it would be interesting to see whether they have seen any increase in crime that can be related back to drug related welfare cuts?
The last thing I remember seeing about it was that they had only had a very miniscule amount of people actually test positive...which they said either meant it was deterring them from doing drugs, or there actually weren't many doing drugs to start with. Would be interesting to see whether there has been any further research into this as to whether it's been a deterrent or whether not many were actually doing drugs to start with? If not many were doing it to start with then it was a great big waste of resources and money!
PS. I'm to lazy to look this up myself :P
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