Just to clarify (although it's probably pointless) I'm not an angry person at all, just don't like the overall vibe I get from a lot of the comments. Maybe I am being oversensitive. Anyhow I'm still completely baffled by how people were offended to my comment of "my tax dollars" as isn't that the truth? The government get their money from us all, so don't we all want to see it go to good places? Hospitals, education, and welfare of course, but I don't want to see it wasted either. Because it's for the benefit of all of us if it's spent correctly, isn't that why everyone is up in arms over the budget? And the fact that someone suggested that it actually isn't my money at all because I'm a sahm is completely offensive. Yes you are right smarty pants I am a sahm and it is technically my DHs money, but I consider what I do in the home a very important job, and therefore I see it as our income and not just his. I'm really surprised to see that sort of attitude on here, devaluing what sahm does is pretty low. And also I would like to add that my family did receive the baby bonus but as far as benefits go that is all. So no I'm not receiving welfare. Ok I'm out now, I should never have gotten involved in the first place because it seems like only one person (@VicPark) understood my point anyway. T
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02-06-2014 06:27 #141
02-06-2014 06:49 #142
The poster I was responding to asked if people were not reading the article in the OP. My response was regarding that article which says-
"THE Abbott government is considering drug testing for the unemployed as part of a major overhaul of welfare."
"The Coalition says it is looking closely at New Zealand’s welfare system, which includes a tough approach to drug use."
So I don't think my comment that the govt are considering implementing something similar to NZ is that much of a stretch. I have read other articles on the subject, for the record, and haven't seen any mention of them looking specifically at other models of this plan except for NZ.
Eta- I hope you're correct though, as they will see how ineffective, marginalising, costly and ridiculous such exercises have always proven to be.
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02-06-2014 06:56 #143
02-06-2014 07:13 #144
I have seen someone spend every dollar not on drugs or alcohol... but something else. They SHOULD do something about monitoring where it goes.
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02-06-2014 07:29 #145
thankyou for for explaining that. I disagree but at least I understand. Although I do still feel that @BigRedV comment was offensive - she was suggesting that I have no right to complain about where taxpayer money is spent because I don't earn any. That devalues the position of a sahm IMO. You say you don't like the phrase because it makes people feel ripped off when the government spends money in ways they don't like, but I don't think it's the phrase that does that. It's the waste people don't like, people don't like money that is so desperately needed being wasted in general. People felt very upset about Abbott buying all those fighter jets and I often read "I don't want my tax dollars going on useless planes" and I think yeah that's fair enough I don't either! Any government wasting money is personal, it affects us all! The government are supposed to be representing "us", so to me the money they have is not theirs but "ours". The debt the last government got us in is now being paid back by the citizens of Australia, it's not being paid back by the government is it? I don't believe that once the money is paid it's no longer mine. It was my money at one point and it's been taken so it can be spent on bettering our country and therefore me and my family hopefully. If I pay for an item at the shops and it turns out to be a wasted purchase because the product is disappointing, I can still be upset that my money has been wasted! Regardless of that particular turn of phrase, the point was, was that it's a waste of welfare payments if it's spent on drugs.
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02-06-2014 07:52 #146
02-06-2014 07:55 #147
02-06-2014 07:56 #148
if we monitor one, we should monitor all and since thats not a realistic idea, then I dont agree with it.
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02-06-2014 07:58 #149
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