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    Just curious is everyone also worried for the people that might be getting their payments suspended for having outstanding arrest warrants ....

    Edit- Also the government isn't going to drug test everyone on welfare they are going to target 'recipients of half their payments if they fail a job-required drug test or refuse to submit to one'

    So in another words if they get a opportunity for a job that requires a drug test and you fail you will then be looked into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Just curious is everyone also worried for the peoplI hae that might be getting their payments suspended for having outstanding arrest warrants ....
    I haven't heard about it, I'd have to read about it to form an opinion. But just off the top of my head, what do people think would happen if you suspended all payments for someone who had committed a crime? I would guess they would become full time criminals to survive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I haven't heard about it, I'd have to read about it to form an opinion. But just off the top of my head, what do people think would happen if you suspended all payments for someone who had committed a crime? I would guess they would become full time criminals to survive?
    Its in the article in OP

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/nation...-1226938723598

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    I think people are forgetting drugs are illegal and police currently can and will test within reason
    *Within reason* being the operative term here. If you are suspected of taking drugs they can test you but must substantiate their reason. If you are subject to a random test while driving this is understood to be a deterrent and something you must accept for the privilege of driving. Also these tests are administered by police officers in the execution of their duty to uphold the law.
    What is being proposed is drug testing people based on the fact that they have little to no source of income with tests being carried out by people not doing so for the purpose of upholding the law.
    Being poor does not equal being a drug addict. Everywhere this has been implemented it has shown that a much smaller number of recipients use illicit drugs vs the number in the general population. This is not being discussed as a measure to help people or to address a problem - it is being discussed as a way to save money (which is extremely unlikely) by addressing an issue which patently does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Just curious is everyone also worried for the people that might be getting their payments suspended for having outstanding arrest warrants ....

    Edit- Also the government isn't going to drug test everyone on welfare they are going to target 'recipients of half their payments if they fail a job-required drug test or refuse to submit to one'

    So in another words if they get a opportunity for a job that requires a drug test and you fail you will then be looked into.
    Instead of suspending payments, why not just have agencies communicate better with each other and have those with warrants arrested and dealt with? I am pretty sure you don't get newstart if you're in prison.

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    Hahaha I've just worked it out! The Govt will introduce it, make those tested go to the Dr, pay for it themselves with their $7 co contribution and cut off a stack of payments. Generate cash and save more cash at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsharvey View Post
    Drugs are illegal for *all* people, not just those who access welfare...
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Exactly
    So if you're going to drug test, shouldn't it apply to everyone instead of targeting one group- especially when it has been shown repeatedly that this group is less likely to use illegal drugs?


 

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