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27-05-2014 10:33 #91
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27-05-2014 10:55 #93
In 2012, approximately 13% of the Australian public (that's around 2,265,000 people) live below the poverty line. Did you also know that 30% of those people are working people, earning their own income.
Did you also know that those who live below the poverty line (or low SES generally), as a group, are more likely to:
Have an earlier rate of mortality
Have higher rates or morbidity (chronic illness, obesity, be smokers etc)
Are more likely to leave school early
They have low participation in higher education
They have a higher rate of unemployment or underemployment
And are more likely to separate of divorce from their partners
So, with all that information, rather than blaming people for not working, or not trying hard enough, or not wanting to work, or crying 'dole bludger', perhaps you might want to think about why these things are happening?
Mental health plays a large role as does social class and social inequality being something that continues through families and generations. If you want the 'problem' to end, then you need to look at the causing factors, and I would hazard a guess and say that having a government unwilling to support those in need, to help them to better themselves and get out of these situations, then these 'problems' are only going to continue.
Did you also know, that in Nordic countries, their welfare systems tend to pay rather well, and yet they have relatively low unemployment rates. Why? Because their governments assure them that there will be jobs, their governments help them to find work, and until they do, they look after them well, so that they are still able to manage a decent standard of living. Are able to pay rent, utilities and buy groceries without having to stress about what bill is going to have to go to debt collectors so they can pay the rent and/or eat.
If you look after people in their time of need, they are less likely to become stressed, they are less likely to suffer mental health issues such as depression, and therefore they will be in a better position to be able to help themselves, and gain employment.
That's what a little government help can do. Government help for those in need does not as a whole, encourage people to be 'dole bludgers', that is nothing but a myth.
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27-05-2014 13:16 #97
I don't know if this has been addressed or.not, but with the Ftb b, as each child ages above 6 does it decrease, or do you still get the same amount until the last child gets 6?
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27-05-2014 13:21 #98
27-05-2014 13:29 #99
Hello all... I'm missed all the budget chat in here, but I have a question...
If the senate (greens, labour and Clive Palmer etc ) DON'T pass the $7 co-payment, does that mean it's "banished" forever, or can the LIBS bring it up again the next budget they have?...
Like if it doesn't get passed this time, can they try it again next time? What year is the next budget drawn up? Is it 2016? Sorry for the dumb question.
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27-05-2014 13:32 #100
I'll see if I can find the article explaining it all.
ETA: This pretty much explains it all.
- A bill must first pass the house and then be rejected, fail to pass or be unacceptably amended by the Senate.
- After a period of three months, the bill may be re-presented to the House. After its passage through then House, if it is again rejected, fails to pass or is unacceptably amended by the Senate, then the legislation has become a 'trigger' for a double dissolution.
- The Prime Minister may choose to use one or more triggers as ground for a double dissolution of both chambers followed by an election for the House and the whole Senate. This is not allowed to take place in the last six months of the House's term.
- After the election the legislation must be presented to the new House, and after its passage, must be presented to the new Senate.
- If the Senate again rejects, fails to pass or unacceptably amends the legislation, then the Prime Minister can request that the Governor-General summon a joint sitting of the two chambers sitting and voting as one on the legislation. At the joint sitting, a simple majority of those members and senators present can pass the legislation which is then signed into law by the Governor General. A legislative (as opposed to ceremonial) joint sitting cannot occur without a double dissolution election having first taken place, and no other legislation can be considered at a joint sitting.
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