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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Page 72 from memory. Read it again. She says to make a cup of tea and leave your 2 week old baby to cry in bed while you sit down and drink your tea.
    Just had a look at page 72.

    It says 'if your baby does cry, I feel it is very important for you to listen. Babies need to be listened to' but no reference to making a cuppa and drinking it.

    Maybe I have a different edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curby View Post
    Just had a look at page 72.

    It says 'if your baby does cry, I feel it is very important for you to listen. Babies need to be listened to' but no reference to making a cuppa and drinking it.

    Maybe I have a different edition.
    Could be page 71? Anyway, it's there, I have seen it with my own eyes and if I was at home, I would take a photo and upload.

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    is this the part in SOS?

    1. If you are "really committed" you put the baby to bed (with a comforter of course), go to the kitchen, empty the kettle, re-fill it with cold water, boil it, make yourself a cup of tea, sit down and drink it. If at the end of your cup of tea your baby is still "protesting", go and see if there's a problem
    2. Option number 2 is is to "allow him to shout (cry) for a minimum of two minutes" although "the longer you stay out the better for your baby, as going in is more for your sake than your baby's".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Page 72 from memory. Read it again. She says to make a cup of tea and leave your 2 week old baby to cry in bed while you sit down and drink your tea.
    That actually makes me quite sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Marigold~ View Post
    That actually makes me quite sad

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    it makes me sad too. Brand new baby, alone in a room (probably in the dark) crying. I could never take advice from someone who advocates that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curby View Post
    Just had a look at page 72.

    It says 'if your baby does cry, I feel it is very important for you to listen. Babies need to be listened to' but no reference to making a cuppa and drinking it.

    Maybe I have a different edition.
    Page 72 of the 2010 edition 'Make sure your baby is well fed, winded and has a clean nappy, then swaddle him and put him down in bed on his back with a comforter beside him. Go into the kitchen, empty the kettle and refill it will cold water, boil it, make yourself a up of tea, sit down and drink it. If at the end of your cup of tea your baby is still protesting, go and see if there is a problem such as wind or poo. It is important to listen to your baby's cries and if you think it is an emotional cry offer some milk. Most of the time, before you have even boiled the kettle your baby has gone to sleep'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Could be page 71? Anyway, it's there, I have seen it with my own eyes and if I was at home, I would take a photo and upload.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    is this the part in SOS?

    1. If you are "really committed" you put the baby to bed (with a comforter of course), go to the kitchen, empty the kettle, re-fill it with cold water, boil it, make yourself a cup of tea, sit down and drink it. If at the end of your cup of tea your baby is still "protesting", go and see if there's a problem
    2. Option number 2 is is to "allow him to shout (cry) for a minimum of two minutes" although "the longer you stay out the better for your baby, as going in is more for your sake than your baby's".
    I just read that section again and she's talking about protesting/grizzling. She then goes on to say that if it's an emotional or hungry cry you should never ignore it and to go in and comfort your baby.

    Okay, done now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    is this the part in SOS?

    1. If you are "really committed" you put the baby to bed (with a comforter of course), go to the kitchen, empty the kettle, re-fill it with cold water, boil it, make yourself a cup of tea, sit down and drink it. If at the end of your cup of tea your baby is still "protesting", go and see if there's a problem
    2. Option number 2 is is to "allow him to shout (cry) for a minimum of two minutes" although "the longer you stay out the better for your baby, as going in is more for your sake than your baby's".
    That was the part where I thought 'I'm out'. I don't drink tea :-)

    Now, to be fair, it's possible that there is a range of ways that this book can be interpreted, going by what some other posters have said on here. But I have an issue with that too. It's all very well to dismiss someone as being an idiot because they've 'got it wrong', but there shouldn't be any room for that kind of misinterpretation if the book is written properly and expressed clearly. It's a diversion to say that everyone else is getting it wrong...

    ETA and just re-reading that part, Option 1 is about this 'protest crying'. Option 2 not only uses the term shout (cry), but then expressly says a *minimum* of 2 minutes, and challenges us to wait for longer, for the sake of the baby. I don't interpret Option 1 and 2 to be talking about the same kind of crying. And I don't think *I'm* an idiot. It's just confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsharvey View Post
    That was the part where I thought 'I'm out'. I don't drink tea :-)

    Now, to be fair, it's possible that there is a range of ways that this book can be interpreted, going by what some other posters have said on here. But I have an issue with that too. It's all very well to dismiss someone as being an idiot because they've 'got it wrong', but there shouldn't be any room for that kind of misinterpretation if the book is written properly and expressed clearly. It's a diversion to say that everyone else is getting it wrong...
    I just did a google and pulled that of a website as a quote, i wasn't sure if that was the exact wording.

    I think people probably use the SOS techniques in varying degrees, whatever you feel comfortable doing for you and your bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    I just read that section again and she's talking about protesting/grizzling. She then goes on to say that if it's an emotional or hungry cry you should never ignore it and to go in and comfort your baby.

    Okay, done now.
    She says to be prepared for "a little crying"

    In the sos toddler book, she says that when a new baby arrives to move the toddler to the other side of the house or even to the grandparents while you train your new baby. Why? Because there is crying.

    Not sure why you're getting defensive because you were saying you were in the room patting and shushing.


 

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