^this!!I'm time poor, and so I've not read all replies, I apologise for that, especially if I am repeating anything. But I'm going to make this very simple.
Feminism isn't *just* about laws, it's about societal changes, laws may be put in place, but that doesn't make immediate nor easily accepted changes. Changes to society and the way it works take a very long time. Just look at racism as a prime example. Here we are in 2014, anti-racism laws have been around for a long time, and yet racism clearly still exists. Because society takes a long time to change.
Some easy examples about feminism, without it women wouldn't be able to:
Work outside of the home
Work in previously made dominated industries (this is something that women STILL struggle with, however)
Be able to remain single and not be a social outcast
Be safe guarded by the law from marital rape
There are MANY things we have thanks to feminism that we previously didn't have. Feminism is important. And it remains important. The fight against models/advertising portraying unrealistic body images - a feminist thing. Fighting for government funded maternity leave - a feminist thing.
I could go on, but yes, I wanted to make this simple. Feminism isn't *just* about equal pay. It's about acknowledging that women do awesome things - which is why we celebrate things like the Australian Woman of the Year. Celebrating women isn't anti-feminist. Feminism has nothing to do with chivalry. Chivalry is about manners, it's not saying that women can't open their own doors.
Feminism should be simple. Feminism is wanting there to be no legal, or social gaps, between men and women.
Exactly what after much reading is now what feminism is to me!
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21-04-2014 13:24 #81
21-04-2014 13:53 #82
I think that other women discounting something as serious as gender inequality is the EXACT reason why we need feminism.
The facts are that as a female you are more at risk of:
Just because you haven't experienced these issues, doesn't mean they aren't major issues in our society.
21-04-2014 16:09 #83
Thank you. That really sat very badly with me as well.
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21-04-2014 16:23 #84Senior Member
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Ok, I haven't read all the replies, so apologise of I repeat anything. We need gender equality, we are so much better than many other countries, but not there yet. If you honestly think as a woman you have not been discriminated against, lucky you. But you are probably wrong. Its still a mans world. You only have to look at women in the media to see this.
As for holding doors, that's manners. If I get to a door first I hold it open for someone regardless of gender. I may ask someone to help me lift/ move something. This is based on physical strength, not gender.
Hoping for a more equal society for our children.
21-04-2014 17:38 #85
With the work drinks, I was the only female so no, I never went out for drinks with the girls. I've also worked with mostly females and if it was work drinks everyone available would come along.
Ss for a girls night out - that has nothing to do with it. It's purely social. Nothing to do with work , networking etc.
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21-04-2014 17:48 #86
Spinoff - feminism
You know, this thread is so fascinating to read. I don't dislike feminism in the slightest. I'm not feminist in an activist kind of way, but my mother is, and I try to make sure my students know about and celebrate the change feminism has brought to society. To me, true equality is about equal freedom of choice, right to education, and personal safety. So I think we are far from that.
I was telling my class about how SA was one of the first places in the world to give women the vote, and they were astounded that they didn't have it in the first place. One of my little boys said 'but my mum makes all the decisions anyway. When she's away dad can't even decide what to make for tea.' I don't want the next generation to grow up with no understanding of how far we've come, because without that there will be no dialogue on how much further we (as in a global society) need to go.
I also disappointed myself when I saw Julia Gillard speak at Young Leader's Day last month. As she was talking, and she was brilliant, by the way, I was distracted by how she was slimmer in real life and how I thought her hair was too boofy. I didn't once think about the appearance of the other (male) speakers. This stuff is just ingrained into us, it's in society, and I think it's so important to keep these conversations going. I think the prospect of a generation of women saying they don't like feminism is very dangerous, because who will fight for us then?
21-04-2014 18:28 #87
Things that **** me off and tells me that feminism is still needed:
A male and I study for three years, do the same degree and apply for the same job. I'm penalised because I'm of breeding age, have a child and even if I get the job I will earn less then him. Why? He is also of breeding age, could have a child and has the same qualification that I do. In what crazy world does this make sense?
21-04-2014 18:58 #88
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