Jon's father was Dany's older brother so she is his Aunty. Given that I would say she is the one with most claim to the throne. I also think Jon won't want it. I predict in the final season that it will be the same set up as the beginning with the Starks being the head House of the North but recognising the Iron throne as the one ruler. I sadly think Jon and Dany will together fight the White Walkers, Jon will die and Sansa will take Winterfell.
Arya - the pie was brilliant I was cheering, it was so fitting.
I think Jamie will believe that Tommen killed himself but will blame her. Their son killed himself bc of what she did and who died. I don't believe Cersei will die at jamie's hands but I tip he will shift sides against her and be with tyrion.
And I'm also loving the strength of the female characters! Even Cersei. But now all her children are dead, the only ones and things she has ever really loved, she will go completely mad. She is a horrible woman but she adored her kids
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28-06-2016 10:00 #851
28-06-2016 11:20 #852
That was a great episode. Music was on point.
Poor Tommen. I felt so bad for him. He was just a toy in everyone else's game...including Cercei's. And after seeing the sept burn with most of the people he cared for dying...and knowing his mum did it, but feeling like it was his own fault, that no matter what he did, he could never have any control...his suicide was the only choice he ever made that he was sure of. No hesitation, no fear, taking off the crown so he could die as just a boy. It was heartbreaking. He could never be an effective king because his heart was too gentle and too kind. RIP Tommen, you were too sweet for that world.
I'm assuming from the way Jaime looked at Cercei when he came back from the Riverlands was one of hatred. She has become the thing he killed 20 years earlier. The thread she's hanging by will last a while, but I think ultimately Jaime will kill her. She not only slaughtered her own family, but was the indirect cause of Tommen's suicide.
I knew it was Arya as soon as she gave Jaime that strange look. Especially since I accidentally came across a photo of her in Fray-style clothing so I knew where she was. That was epic. And also a throw back to the foreshadowing a few seasons ago where it was mentioned that a rat was fed his own children in a pie after they killed someone who was a guest in their home.
Sansa has smartened up. I don't think she was upset that Jon was named King in the North, since the conversation before hand was how she saw him as a Stark rather than a *******. I do think she may have a disappointed that no one acknowledged her calling upon the vale and saving the day at the last minute. I appreciated her apology to Jon for not telling him about the Knights. I still think she doesn't trust anyone, not even Jon, but I do think she will put more thought into her decisions. Yay for her seeing through LF's cr@p. I think she will be his downfall. At least I hope so.
Dany has finally set sail for Westeros. Apparently there were Tyrell ships in her fleet if you look closely. And Dornish ones, too?
Tyrion being named as Hand of the Queen because he deserves it and for no other reason...pulled on the heartstrings.
Farewell, 2nd Daario Neharis...the first one was better anyway XD
Samwell was like "Gilly, I will never leave y...LIBRARY BYE!"
28-06-2016 11:29 #853
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28-06-2016 12:41 #854
The crown would have gone to his legitimate children however when they died Jon would have been next in line. Only when there are no children does the crown then go to Rhaegars siblings (Dany)
28-06-2016 12:51 #855
28-06-2016 12:54 #856
For those that have read the books - it's been hinted online in GoT fan circles that Rhaegar and Lyanna were actually in love, but given the politics of the time and her betrothal to Robert who she didn't want to marry, the kidnapping was a rouse for the couple to be together.
What does the book hint towards? Kidnapping or real love?
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28-06-2016 13:32 #857
28-06-2016 14:54 #858
Regarding Jon's right to the throne...yes he is Rhaegar's son, but he's also still a *******, as far as we know and ******** have no claim to the throne, unless they are legitimized. So I would guess that Dany has more of a right than Jon since she is considered full Targ. I mean if we go by the theory of non-legitimate children having right to the throne, if the theory that Tyrion is the child of the Mad King and Joanna Lannister is correct than he has a right to it as well. Really, the throne is technically up for grabs since no one likes Cercei and let's face it, she will definitely die. It will either be taken by someone considered a legit Targ or someone with Targ blood. Honestly, the only one who wants to rule Westeros at this stage is Dany. Euron is her only competition other than Cercei and I doubt he will end up ruling anything in the end.
Although the showrunners could throw a spanner in the works to make up for being a bit predictable this season.
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28-06-2016 15:31 #859Senior Member
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Sorry, I have to ask a stupid question - but it's been driving me insane.
How did Cersei end up queen exactly? She doesn't have a claim to it, does she? Or is just a case of "well, no one else is here and I'm the queen mother so it's mine?"
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28-06-2016 15:34 #860
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