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    Quote Originally Posted by headoverfeet View Post
    As a non vaccinator/delayed vaccinator I have never denied that vaccinations work. My risk assessment just lead me to believe that we were better off not vaccinating/delaying. That maybe not be what you would decide but I will always do what I believe is best for my family.

    I am quiet offended by this declaring that people that dont vaccinate are selfish. Are women who dont want to breastfeed selfish? What about those who CIO? Seems to be perfectly ok to call non vaccinators here on bubhub selfish but it wouldnt be tolerated in any other pareting choice. Not cool in my opinion.
    Breastfeeding or doing CIO doesn't affect PUBLIC health, not vaccinating your child puts other people at risk of contracting illnesses. You are comparing apples and oranges here
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpancakes View Post
    These people should all move to the same town, start a school for their kids and keep away from the sensible people who vaccinate!
    Yes, it's called Manly....

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    From the Reddit AMA that PP (Atropos?) referenced, in response to the comments that the woman in question only contracted polio because of her weak immune system:

    Fourth: I got polio not because I wasn't vaccinated, but because I had a week immune system. Really? I mean, really? Are you serious? That is the entire point of vaccines. Of course I got polio because my immune system couldn't handle the virus. I repeat. That is the entire point of vaccines. If you would rather we give no vaccines and just let those who are infected die off, well, I can't comment on your worldview. Just keep in mind that your children might not grow up to share that same world view and you don't have the right to endanger their physical well-being because of whatever personal philosophies you might hold close to your heart.

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    I had the cervical cancer vax and various boosters before getting pregnant with DS and the past few years for traveling or because I work with small children. My immunity was checked before falling pregnant with DS because after loosing our daughter and having one of the theories be that I had caught CMV, a virus with no vaccination (this ended up not being the reason); I wasn't going to risk loosing another baby to a virus that can be prevented.

    DS is booked in for his 8 weeks vax and has already had the TB vax. We're in London currently and they didn't offer hep b at birth but advised TB because it is more prevalent here than in some parts of India.

    ETA: I meant he's had the TB vax, not TB!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by javic View Post
    Cranky, I have seen a study showing vaccinated children have more colds and allergies - not sure how legit it is but it also seems to me that we have little way if knowing exactly what those vaccines are doing inside our tiny children's bodies. I almost wish I'd just taken a free ride with my kids.
    I have never seen such a study, and I suspect the only place you'll find such claims is on antivax websites. If such a study exists, then I have no doubt it's a very poor one, unpublished and self-selecting.

    Conversely, there are several proper studies into this sort of thing. eg:
    http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi...AJPH.91.7.1126

    I also don't understand the claim that "we don't know what vaccines are doing inside our tiny children's bodies". Of course we do, and the phraseology of your statement seems deliberately emotive.

    Reminded me of this I saw yesterday:
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    Quote Originally Posted by emily173 View Post
    If it is commonly agreed that Vaccinated people either (a) don't contract the illness at all or (b) have a mild and harmless version of the illness thanks to the vaccine... What's the problem? If the vaccine does what it claims to why are you so worried about the risk from the unvaccinated?
    What about the risk to those who either cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons (e.g. allergy, cancer etc), or are too young?

    How would you feel if (in the future) your unvaccinated 4-year-old contracts whooping cough (which is not particularly dangerous for him by that age), and then infects the baby next door, who then spends 6 months in NIC or worse?

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    HazTechDad...that quiz is brilliant!! Illustrates a very important point. Immunology is complex, and beautiful in a way, and is actually very well understood.
    When people talk about "chemicals" being put into their children, it causes me to wonder if they really even know what a vaccine is...in most cases it is a piece of protein, or modified viral DNA, which is "presented" to the immune system. This piece of protein or DNA then elicits a protective immune response. It is a lovely bit of Medicine, really!!
    I'd be more worried about the **** that is in food, quite honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    HazTechDad...that quiz is brilliant!! Illustrates a very important point. Immunology is complex, and beautiful in a way, and is actually very well understood.
    When people talk about "chemicals" being put into their children, it causes me to wonder if they really even know what a vaccine is...in most cases it is a piece of protein, or modified viral DNA, which is "presented" to the immune system. This piece of protein or DNA then elicits a protective immune response. It is a lovely bit of Medicine, really!!
    I'd be more worried about the **** that is in food, quite honestly.
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    I could not agree more regarding food. In fact I was thinking about that yesterday... I wonder how vigilant anti vaxxers are with diet...

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    Check out this rubbish that's going around fb today. Makes me want to scream 😡

    http://www.change.org/petitions/rep-...uiter=56246805

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJG View Post
    Check out this rubbish that's going around fb today. Makes me want to scream ������

    http://www.change.org/petitions/rep-...uiter=56246805


    Autism is not caused by vaccines- it's been studied so rigorously.

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