What gets me about this, is that vaccinations are highly recommended by medical science for a reason. If your "research" shows otherwise, then why do you think they recommend them?
Does everybody who's anti-vax really believe in conspiracy theories, that they understand biology better than the professionals, or that the doctors etc. just don't give a crap about peoples' health?
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28-03-2014 12:38 #111
28-03-2014 13:10 #112
There is an adult man in the ICU where I work who is dying of Tetanus. He is a migrant and comes from a country who do not have a vaccination program, hence he is unvaccinated.
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28-03-2014 13:23 #113
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28-03-2014 13:24 #114Senior Member
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Just a thought......vaxxing gives us the best chance or eradicating a VPD.
By not vaxxing are we not giving these VPDs a chance to mutate to become a different strain that requires new research and development of a new vaccine or totally resistant to vaccine at all. Maybe someone more learned than myself can answer.
A quick search has thrown up that there may already be a possibility of Measles becoming resistant to the current vaccine. Is this what Anti-Vaxxers want? A new super strain of a VPD??
It scares the hell out of me.
28-03-2014 13:26 #115Senior Member
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Here is a link to some results of the study - like I said, not sure if it's at all legit.
I did like some pro-vax posts I'm sure!
I do get upset about healthy anti-vax types free riding on others. I have no issue with those that have good reason to avoid vax. It ****es me off most when people deny that vaccines work and use that as their reasoning. At least if they have the balls to say "I'm just taking a free ride" then I can respect that. But most anti vaxxes won't. They don't have the courage.
It winds me up too when anti vax mums boast how healthy their child is. That really upsets me.
28-03-2014 13:38 #116
Secondly, have you read that website?? It barely makes sense- quote-
"Since the last 200 years, when vaccines were introduced by Edward Jenner in the today's conventional meaning the effectiveness and dangers of vaccinations have proven themselves to be controversial. Vaccinations in their principle are an attack to the immune system. This especially applies to infants, toddlers and young children."
If you want to see some reliable, peer reviewed studies and reliable info, I'm happy to post links, I'm sure @beebs and others have a bunch of links we could give you- this website is dodgy as hell and there's no way I'd trust anything it published.
28-03-2014 13:59 #117
I do respect your choice. But I think the issue many have, is that you ultimately aren't just choosing for your child, you are potentially affecting others by transmission especially for newborns and small children. So I guess some think it is their business.
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28-03-2014 14:04 #118
28-03-2014 14:07 #119
Apparently neonatal tetanus is a thing! Babies can contract tetanus from an unhealed cord stump and it is responsible for 14% of all neonatal deaths.
Sure, not really a risk in a developed country, but I guess shows that the vaccination schedule is not as random as can initially appear and I'm quite certain that the Mothers of those babies who have died from it would have done anything to be vaccinated against tetanus.
Main article: Neonatal tetanus
Neonatal tetanus is a form of generalized tetanus that occurs in newborns. Infants who have not acquired passive immunity because the mother has never been immunized are at risk. It usually occurs through infection of the unhealed umbilical stump, particularly when the stump is cut with a non-sterile instrument. As of 1998 neonatal tetanus was common in many developing countries and was responsible for about 14% (215,000) of all neonatal deaths In 2010 the worldwide death toll was 58,000 newborns. As the result of a public health campaign, the death toll from neonatal tetanus was reduced by 90% between 1990 and 2010, and by 2013 the disease had been largely eliminated from all but 25 countries. Neonatal tetanus is rare in developed countries.
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28-03-2014 14:09 #120
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