My experience has also been that childcare has been excellent for my children and I would not personally send them to family daycare for a multitude of reasons, although I recognise there are many positives to family daycare too and many good carers. But for our family a community childcare centre has been the perfect fit. I highly doubt there would be enough FDC places, and who exactly would do it, people with young kids couldnt as they would instead be being paid not to work for 3 years
But back to your original statement, if I were paid at 'base rate' to stay at home with my kids for 3 entire years and there was no childcare, I would be likely to have a few more, probably one every 3 years. After all its not likely I could find a job to go back to after a break that long (or only 3 years for that matter) . Not sure how the economy would cope with all of this though? Imagine how society would change, would women even bother to go to uni or tafe if they were planning to have children? Would people who cant get a job decide to just get pregnant? What about the rates of PND (I know many, many mums of under 3s who went back to work because they NEEDED it for their mental health). What about the rates of relationship breakup as the men resent the women for 'doing nothing' (I dont agree with that obviously but its a very very common thing I hear SAHM talk of) and the divide between the sexes becomes massive? And what about multiple births, do they get 6 or 9 years paid?
I just dont see how it could possibly work. Im all for PPL but 3 years per child is a very long time. How would it be funded. And assuming that it needs to be the mother is archaic. Sure you said it didnt have to be but overall that will be the way society heads, making it harder and harder for Dads to get involved with their children. Its hard enough for Dads as it is! And why does there even have to be 1 primary carer? DH and I split our parental leave equally for all our kids and he did just great
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14-06-2014 06:59 #271
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18-06-2014 22:58 #274
I'm no fan of the herald sun by this piece of opinion is just awesome!!
"Debate the cost but don’t question the value of paid parental leave"
PS @kw123 I think you may have a pm inbox issue
19-06-2014 05:20 #275
19-06-2014 05:28 #276
This para is relevant to BH I think...
It is often said that women can be their own worst enemies and the paid parental leave issue has proved particularly so, unleashing a type of class warfare among high- and low-income women.
19-06-2014 06:49 #277
19-06-2014 06:56 #278Senior Member
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Great piece. Thanks for sharing - I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.
19-06-2014 07:07 #279
Ie when buying a house/making commitments I think it's foolhardy to base it on a double income if you wish to have kids/family. I have friends who foolishly committed to a high mortgage and now planning kids are worried about a loss of income so my friend is thinking about returning to work 4mths after bub is born FT. I think it's ridiculous to expect the rest of us to fork over tax dollars intended for health and education to PPL because couples like that have high expectations of their lifestyle.
I know we are planning a third late next year and we are both saving our butts off now to fund my 1-2 yrs home after bub #3 is here. Parents on this forum often get slammed for expecting the school kids bonus etc and get told that if you want kids that they should fund it themselves. You can't have it both ways.
I fail to see why the govt/taxpayers should fund anything more than minimum wage for PPL but I do support it extended to 6mths.
Will explain later as my kids are demanding more pancakes.
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19-06-2014 07:21 #280
Confused about your comment about tax dollars intended for health and education? I'm pretty sure we don't get a say where "our" tax dollars go. I am happy for mine to go to health, education, a host of welfare benefits, and also PPL.
Replacement wage is about maintaining financial status quo for women who have to take time off to have a baby. Minimum wage doesn't pay the bills for the majority of people. And the Govt does not want us all living "lifestyles" that it would. Let's not forget that this not really about the Govt doing the "right thing" for women. It's about what makes best financial sense for the country.
I know most people can't grasp the concept that spending money makes money by increasing female participation in the workforce but it's economic fact and not up for opinion.
It will be paid for by big business. The notion that schools and hospitals will have money stripped from them and put into the pockets of those pesky high income females is ludicrous.
Anyway this is what the article was talking about... The divisive tone between women. So may as well just forget it and see what happens.
I for one would be happy with 26 weeks minimum wage plus super as I also get 16 weeks from my employer. But it's not just about me. I want women who work at places without PPL schemes to have the same benefits I do.
The sooner it becomes co-funded by businesses (yes including small business) and the Govt the better.
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