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    yes that's what I mean. When you are on the 18wks PPL and unpaid leave you loose continuity of service.

    The coalition spoke about preventing employers to offer their own parental scheme if the new PPL is implemented. So basically most parents would lose a minimum of 6months continuity of service. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Nette View Post
    I'm surprised it's as high as 1 in 20 dads taking the ppl. They way centrelink carried on when DH took the last 3 weeks of my ppl, they had no idea how to process it.

    I'm now working 3 days a week and DH stays at home with DD one of those days and she is in day care for two days. They love their time together and I'm surprised that more dads don't want that kind of involvement.
    I would love my partner to do that! However, im struggling to get him to take 2 weeks off once bubs is born as his priority is always what work wants -,-

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    Just realized something about the proposed new PPL.

    If it does replace current private arrangements (employer paid parental leave) it will have a negative impact on continuity of service...

    In my case of I take 6 months off work with the current scheme I would only lose 3 month continuity of service as my employer gives me 3 months of paid parental leave.
    With the proposed new scheme, I'd lose the whole 6 months.

    Hopefully this is something that will be addressed in the bill.
    But the government can't MAKE employers cancel their maternity leave offerings, though I suspect dome smaller organizations may do this.

    I get 26 weeks pay from my employer (at 5 days a week, even though I currently work 3 days), plus the 18 week pay from the government. If the new PPL gets passed, my employer is still going to offer me these same entitlements, but if they changed it, its nit going to be because legislation makes them.

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    @Allie Pallie yes they can
    I'll quote the constitution later

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    @DJ Nette i think its a lot less than 5% of dads sadly enough.

    according to the PPL review that has just been published it's less than 0.4% actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    @Allie Pallie yes they can
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    What would be the benefit to them by making an employer cancel their arrangement? What if it was already built into an enterprise agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    What would be the benefit to them by making an employer cancel their arrangement? What if it was already built into an enterprise agreement?
    I agree I don't get why they'd want to override private arrangement but they said they would. And yes that includes EBAs.

    "As reported in our August 2013 update, the Federal Government is proposing to displace existing paid parental leave awards, agreements and company policies in favour of its own national scheme.

    The purpose of the new policy is to prevent employees from "double-dipping" into both the Government's paid parental leave scheme and their own employer's arrangements. Relevantly, the Abbott Government plans to exercise its social welfare power, under section 51 (xxiiiA) of the Constitution, to override all such employer arrangements to achieve this goal."

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    It's definitely a step backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legeyt View Post
    I'm Finding this thread quite informative & seeing both sides of the equation. (Keeping my opinions to myself on this one)

    Out of curiosity did any one here have kids before ANY type of PPL or baby bonus scheme came in? I did.
    I dont think thats comparing apples with apples because the cost of property (most peoples main cost) has risen exponentially in that time.

    I got generous PPL but would give that up in a flash to be able to buy a 3 bedroom house for 80K

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