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    @Allie Pallie By the same token then a sick person is a sick person and should get paid the minimum wage while on sick leave.

    Same for carer leave, when I take a carer leave to look after my son I guess I'm a mum and should only get minimum wage.

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    Countries that have a much more socialist approach in making their society more equitable actually have lower crime rates, higher education levels among all citizens etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Countries that have a much more socialist approach in making their society more equitable actually have lower crime rates, higher education levels among all citizens etc.
    They also have less SAHMs and higher workforce participation in general, which is good otherwise they couldn't afford it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    @Allie Pallie By the same token then a sick person is a sick person and should get paid the minimum wage while on sick leave.

    Same for carer leave, when I take a carer leave to look after my son I guess I'm a mum and should only get minimum wage.

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    They are two different things in my eyes due to employers paying sick leave, and where the PPL is a government payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    They are two different things in my eyes due to employers paying sick leave, and where the PPL is a government payment.
    So you thinks it's ok that I get 14 weeks paid at my full salary + 18 weeks minimum wage while my friend who works just as hard as me for a smaller business only get 18 wks minimum wage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Sorry I was typing as I was walking the pram... $150,000 , $100,000 either way I think it's a load of poo. But I sincerely aplogise for the obvious distress that my typo has caused you
    It was your apparent lack of knowledge on the subject. Ie taxpayers comment

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    Amnesty International. http://www.amnesty.org.au/news/comments/23235/

    Extract : "Amnesty International Australia but has called for the scheme to be taken further – to extend the period of paid leave beyond 18 weeks, and to ensure no woman has a reduced income during this time.

    Amnesty International believes paid parental leave is vital to achieving equality and eliminating discrimination in economic, employment and social spheres. It is not a luxury that should be subject to questions of productivity, but is a basic, universal human right."

    I would also like to add that Australia currently does not meet the standards in the ILO "Maternity Protection Convention, 2000 (No. 183)".
    This convention is the most up-to-date international labour standard on maternity protection.

    Convention No. 183 provides for 14 weeks of maternity benefit to women to whom the instrument applies. Women who are absent from work on maternity leave shall be entitled to a cash benefit which ensures that they can maintain themselves and their child in proper conditions of health and with a suitable standard of living and which shall be no less than two-thirds of her previous earnings or a comparable amount.

    But what do Amnesty International and the United Nation know about people rights....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    So you thinks it's ok that I get 14 weeks paid at my full salary + 18 weeks minimum wage while my friend who works just as hard as me for a smaller business only get 18 wks minimum wage?
    But it's about replacement wage to maintain financial status quo! We do not live in a communist society. Not everyone gets the same salary! Is that unfair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    So you thinks it's ok that I get 14 weeks paid at my full salary + 18 weeks minimum wage while my friend who works just as hard as me for a smaller business only get 18 wks minimum wage?
    Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread, but do you mean you get 14 weeks from your employer and 18 weeks from govt, but your friend doesn't get anything from their employer, but gets the 18 months get pay too.

    if that's what you mean, is that fair? Not really, but employers don't have to pay maternity leave. Should every employer have to? I'm not sure of the wider impacts of this, so I can't comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread, but do you mean you get 14 weeks from your employer and 18 weeks from govt, but your friend doesn't get anything from their employer, but gets the 18 months get pay too.

    if that's what you mean, is that fair? Not really, but employers don't have to pay maternity leave. Should every employer have to? I'm not sure of the wider impacts of this, so I can't comment.
    I agree with this ^^^^^


 

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