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    Personally as a teacher, I'd give the her the benefit of the doubt.
    There may well have been time restraints, conditions imposed by the pool, previous student behaviour etc. to be aware of. Whilst certainly, some teachers are unnecessarily harsh, an outsider has no idea of why the teacher is giving the instructions that they are. Unless something is obviously abusive, I don't think it's fair to be judging the teacher when you don't know the details.

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    Yeah I'd be very p1ssed off about that too. I know my eldest daughter isn't going through puberty yet, but she is already self conscience about her body. If I ever found out about that at my kids' school, I'd be straight there having a few stern words to their teachers!! I remember as a child having swimming lessons, even at a young age, I always used the toilet cubicles. I'd be really upset if I had to get dressed/undressed in front of people.

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    As a teacher I agree, yes it can be difficult. Once kids are in the shower they can take ages and it can be so hard to hurry them along and be them all out, dressed, packed up and ready. Often bus companies will get really grumpy if you are late as they have other pickups.
    However - I would never embarrass or humiliate children (or teens) by making them change in from of others when they are not comfortable. Nor do I ever use the children's change rooms to change myself. I would use a cubicle, then leave the change rooms and let the girls get on with it, rather than hanging around and embarrassing them. I check in regularly to make sure things are ok but don't linger in there. Kids need privacy too just like adults.

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    Argh, flashbacks, at my local pool, they had cubicles, but there were no doors on them, pointless!!
    I don't get the whole, it's cool to get naked with other people at the pool thing, I'm not sure why normal conventions don't apply to the pool change rooms, weird.

    The poor kids, they should never have to feel uncomfortable like that, very sad.

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    I can see both points. Obviously from the kids point of view, but also the teachers. They're on a schedule and they have to meet the bus. They keep the bus waiting and it's more $$$, the kids miss out on valuable learning time and the parents get up in arms about that too. I think it'd be very difficult.

    DS is very self conscious. He would wear his swimmers (even a rashie) to school and I would tell him that if he didn't want to get changed out of them- just leave them on, dry them as much as possible and put your school clothes over them.

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    I can see both sides.

    Surely there's only so many cubicles and it sounds like it's a public pool? If so, they cannot fairly occupy all the toilets for changing children while other patrons might come in. I also imagine just how long they'd each take... and as I said, limited amount of toilets, so you'd have to take turns. I think a lot of the time they've got time restrictions... lord knows how you'd manage to get them all in and out and changed in time... I have just ONE 8.5-year-old girl and it takes freaking forever to get her changed out of her swimwear!

    On the other hand, I had breasts and pubic hair when I was 9. Nobody else did. It was horrible, and I would regularly fake sickness on these days just to avoid that very kind of situation. I didn't need to give kids a reason to make fun of me, particularly as I was very uncomfortable with the fact I was going through puberty before others my age were.

    I'm trying to be very open and honest about puberty and the body with DD... and we get changed in the open area in change rooms because I want her to get used to it now before she starts getting too self-conscious. I've told her that nobody is looking at her... they're all in there the same as us, hoping nobody look at THEIR naked bodies. People are too concerned with themselves to give a crap about what you look like naked, so don't worry too much about it.

    I think if she finds this scenario a problem when she gets older, I will recommend she put her clothes on over her swimwear (after drying them as best she can), and then get changed back at school during a trip to the toilets if she needs to.
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    Can't you teach the kids how to get changed under their clothes? We would have been able to do it by the time we were old enough to be at all conscious about our bodies.

    T-shirt on over bathers (head only but pull down over body)
    Slip bathers off arms and pull down to waist
    Arms through t-shirt sleeves (or bra/crop top on first)
    Skirt on (or towel around waist if they wear skorts or shorts)
    Pull down bathers
    Pull up knickers

    Voila!

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    Most schools that we have been too will not allow kids to put the uniform on over their togs.

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