DH and I are looking to TTC next year and as such I've finally allowed myself to think about pregnancy and birth again - 2.5 years after a traumatic labor/birth experience. (I know I have a healthy son and thats all that really matters, but I am still somewhat haunted by my 24hr+ labor/failed water birth attempt that ended in an emergency c).
We've since relocated from Melbourne to Sunshine Coast Qld and will be going private this time - so I have lots of q's.
Sorry about all the q's - I just want to get the facts before I allow myself to get excited at the prospect of a #2. I would absolutely love to have a successful VBAC - but am all too aware that simply wanting one is not going to guarantee it - but have to try!
- Does anyone have a recommendation for a pro-VBAC Obs on the sunshine coast?
- Monitoring: I understand there needs to be constant monitoring for VBACs - what does this mean exactly? Do I need to be strapped to a bed with monitor straps all over me? (Seem to remember my last birth going downhill when I was strapped to a bed with what looked like a giant seat-belt - arrgghh!)
- Have seen a bit about wireless monitoring, what is this and can this be used with water birth?
- What else can I do to prepare myself mentally? I did a calmbirth course before the last birth but maybe I need some sort of counselling as I clearly still have some suppressed issues as the result of my experience?
- Are 2nd labors shorter even if you failed to have a VB the first time? Or is it likely to be long like the first?
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03-12-2013 23:24 #1
General VBAC q's + anyone VBAC on Sunshine Coast qld?
04-12-2013 08:00 #2
I'm attempting a vbac in Feb. Everything varies hospital to hospital. At my hospital I need to get to the hospital soon after labour begins so monitoring can begin. Yes monitoring wilk most likely restrict you to the bed. Some hospitals have wireless monitors which allow you to move around but again that depends on the hospital. I asked about a water birth and I was flat out told no. Not 100% on why. When I asked she just said I didn't 'qualify'. I'm assuming it has to do with monitoring. In saying all that though, you have the right to say no to anything that you feel is unnecessary. I also believe that you cannot be induced.
After ds's birth I struggled a lot coming to terms with the fact that it ended in a c-section. Once I stopped bf (13months) I sought help. I was diagnosed with depression triggered by a traumatic birth experience/PND. I left it so lobg because I didn't not want to take medication while feeding. I started meds and counseling and about 6 months later I was a new person. I got off the meds and we started ttc #2. I would definitely recommend speaking to someone. I believe it is so important to make peace with your past experience. I am now at a point where if this attempt ends in another c-section then I'll be ok. Had I of not 'mourned' my lost birth experience then it would hit me 10x harder because I saw a VB as the only cure.
Also, if you're on fb there is an awesome vbac group. Full of so many amazing women and useful info. I recommend it to any vbac-er! Good luck!
04-12-2013 22:50 #3-
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Waterbirth information from Sunshine Coast Private - no mention of VBAC's or continuous fetal monitoring being a contraindication to using the bath.
Constant monitoring doesn't mean you have to stay on the bed. There will be two belts that strap the fetal heart monitor and the tocometer (for contractions/uterine activity) to your stomach. If it's the wired version then you've got about a metre of cord from the machine.
Sit in a birth ball, stand and lean against the bed, kneel either on the floor leaning on the bed or kneel on the bed leaning against the top, stand and sway with your partner. They'll have to disconnect it for you to get to the toilet to pass urine etc, so ask your midwife if you can have an extra 10/15 minutes to use the shower or just walk around if everything is all looking good.
The wireless monitors are exactly the same except there is no cords connected your belly to the machine. Most are waterproof as well, so use the shower, hop in the bath, walk around the room, do cartwheels.
Moving about may make it a little be trickier to keep the monitors in the right spot, but it's nothing that bit of tape or someones hand won't fix. Or they can put a little clip on babys head and only need one strap around your stomach.
04-12-2013 23:19 #4Senior Member
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I had a VBA2C and had the wireless monitoring. It was great to be able to move around. I was very active, sitting on the ball, standing with the shower spraying on my belly, walking around, etc etc.... BUT... I found I had a longer labour than the previous 2... I ended up with forceps and a 3rd degree cut. Even tho the pain was awful it was great not having that pain of a ceaser scar.
05-12-2013 01:46 #5
My VBAC labour was really short, only 2 hrs which shocked me as i never got a chance to labour with first birth so thought it would be longer like first labours usually are. I had a lot of acupuncture which helped tone my uterus though and seemed to make contractions very efficient!
You can say you don't want continuous monitoring, and say only every 10 mins for example if all is well. You are the patient and have control over things like that if you would prefer to move around more. I was going to do this but bub came so quick I was ready to push by time i got to hospy and just let them leave it on. ended up with forceps and third degree tear too. As previous poster said, still preferable to c section and recovery was much easier.
15-02-2014 23:22 #6
Kylie Isaacs is pro vbac (and lovely and though Sunshine Coast private don't allow you to water birth as a vbac they use telemetry monitors so you can move around and be in the shower as much as you like.
I'm having a vba2c there in early July and she's said she's fine for me to refuse a cannula, to come to hospital when I'm in active labour (so not straight away) and that she won't time
me/the labour but rather keep an eye on bubs and I and if we're ok then all's well.
George Bogiatzis is also provbac though I haven't birthed with him
(Have ended up with csecs) friends have and he's also a great doctor.
20-11-2014 22:55 #7
22-11-2014 16:22 #8Junior Member
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My first was a 24 hour labour ending in emergency CS. I had a VBAC two weeks ago and it was totally different. I was in labour for two and a half hours before arriving at the hospital, expecting constant monitoring and a long day ahead. They toldme I was fully dilated and had to push! Just goes to show they really are all different! Best of luck; hope it goes really well for you.
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22-11-2014 16:42 #9-
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I too had a very long labour that ended with baby in distress and an emerg csection. I had PTSD, anxiety and PND as a result. I recommend seeking help for unresolved issues surrounding it. There are psychologists out there specialising in traumatic birth experiences.
I went for a vbac in July and was promised by a top consultant that my labour would be much shorter. Bullocks. It bloody wasn't. I actually never even made it in "labour" despite contracting every 5-9min painfully for 20 hours. Didn't even dilate. I made it to 5cm with my first but that took forever. I was upset but made peace with it. I was high risk due to having a postpartum stroke the first time so I had a csection. So no it doesn't always make labour (well I guess prelabour) shorter the 2nd time around. A friend of mine was the same as me. Not the news you wanted to hear but thought I would share! Everyone is different. Go for it!
I hope it goes really well for you! I recommend hiring a private midwife or doula or one that is both.
25-11-2014 15:48 #10
Its partly why I am going private this time. If there are problems early on, I'm not going to go through another 20+hrs of unprogressive 2 min contractions (if I can avoid it)! I want to ensure my OB has a plan B, C and D should things not be going to plan 'A'. The exhaustion of a long intense labor folowed by an emergency C sec took its toll on my health big time with DS. I think the 5 days following birth were just as bad, if not worse than the labor itself!
As much as I REALLY want a natural vaginal birth, its not the be-all and end-all. Healthy baby, healthy mumma - that's the goal. But if all is looking well, I absolutely want to try
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