I would think that you would most likely have to pay the full fee again if there are none to transfer. With saying that if your partner has low sperm count they will prob do ICSI so your chances are much higher and given your age your chances are at 50% at the start(well that's what our FS told us as we are 26 and 29) have you had an appointment yet with a FS?
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03-12-2013 13:28 #11Member
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03-12-2013 14:37 #12
Hi OP. We have done one full stim cycle. The transfer on that one did not take but we had four embryos in the freezer. Our first frozen embie stuck and we have a delightful 13 month old now. Looking to go back next year for another FET. Hoping that we will not need to do another stim cycle. Our issues were poor sperm and me with one blocked tube.
If you have no embryos at the end of a cycle you would have to pay for everything you had up to that point and then for a new cycle. You may get refunded some $ - or a discount on the next cycle. My clinic requires full payment at the beginning of your cycle but that includes all drugs and specialist fees, including for embryo transfer and up until final blood test. If you have no transfer you won't need to have paid for those things.
There are a lot of women on here who have taken many cycles to get their BFP. I think it could be counterproductive going into the process saying "I'll only do it twice". What happens if it doesn't work that quickly for you, or they discover some other issue? I decided to think more in terms of how long I could keep going (this may vary depending on finances). I was happy to try for two years and then reassess. However, after my stim cycle I decided I wouldn't be able to handle more than two of those a year. Oops, sorry for the essay I just worry when I see people saying they will only do IVF once or twice as I feel they may be setting themselves up for disappointment. That said, you have to do what is right for you mentally and physically.
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03-12-2013 14:58 #15Member
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we worked out that financially were only able to go through it twice so we wouldn't have had a choice to continue if it wasn't successful even if we wanted too... We found it worked great to keep us grounded about it all. Other wise knowing me I would have been telling DP we would be getting loans and continuing until it worked.
03-12-2013 15:07 #16
For us it took 7 cycles... 5 fresh (stimulated), and 2 using frozen embryos. It was a frozen embryo cycle that worked for us.
We sometimes had one embryo transferred, and sometimes two. Our successful cycle was a single embryo transfer.
with our particular clinic, if there is no embryo to transfer, you are refunded a portion of the cost (I can't remember how much as this only happened once for us).
i agree that it is an expensive process, but more than that, it is also incredibly emotionally draining. My advise would be to go into the process expecting it to take four stimulated cycles (as that is what my clinic advise), I remember being told that each cycle had about a 25% chance of working (just like a couple trying to conceive naturally would have a 25% chance of success each month). Does anyone else remember being told something like that?
The first cycle is often a bit of a 'learning' cycle as they see how you respond to the drugs etc, they can then tweak the protocol for your next cycle based on how you responded...so, while we all hope you are successful 1st attempt, it's easier to take the pressure off and view it as an opportunity for the FS to learn about you...
good luck! Xx
03-12-2013 15:09 #17
We did 3 full stim cycles and I am now 7 weeks pregnant (saw the heartbeat today!). We only have 1 in the freezer and that was from our last attempt. I have a history of mild endo but our issues are mostly male factor - poor count, morphology, motility plus DNA fragmentation. So we did PICSI.
I think it's best to think of the first cycle as a test run. Your FS won't know how you're going to respond to the meds or what the embryo quality will be until you've done a cycle. Our FS completely changed things for our third round and that got us our BFP.
Don't put a limit on it of you don't have to financially. See how your first cycle goes and go by how you feel rather than putting pressure on yourself with a time limit.
I'm sure it'll happen for you - good luck!
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03-12-2013 15:20 #18
Totally agree with Cue.
When we started the ivf journey I thought it was pretty cut and dry and I'd get pregnant quickly. 4 years later and no take home baby. Don't go in saying it will happen in x amount of cycles as things might come up that you had not bargained for. We went in thinking it was only a male sperm issue. We got lots of embryos but had multiple failed transfers before falling preg then mc at 10 weeks due to no heartbeat.
We moved clinic and I had heaps of testing and other things came up with me so luckily this wonderful new doctor came up with a new plan and I fell pregnant that cycle but lost baby at 17 weeks. This last cycle I got pregnant again and just praying I get to take this baby home in June.
So overall 4 full cycles and 8 transfers altogether. As for double transfer I only could do that after a few failed cycles but when I fell pregnant only one took. After my second trimester loss they refuse to put two in now as it's too risky.
As you are young, they will only transfer one. More and more clinics are now advocating only single embryo transfers. As for the question about payment is there are no embryos in the cycle. First of all you will not pay the full amount if your cycle is cancelled before egg pick up- this will happen if you don't respond well to the drugs and your follicles are not growing. However you will still have to pay if you do get eggs but then they don't fertilize and make embryos. It's just very bad luck but the money you pay goes to the cost of the meds ( which is about
$4000), the egg pick up procedure, the embryologists, the doctor etc etc . It sux the amount of money it costs but it worth the baby in the end.
I wish you all the best and I would recommended always getting a second opinion if you ever feel unsure.
Everyone's case is different. Some ppl have an easier journey than others. Hopefully yours will be simple and successful.
03-12-2013 15:43 #19
Thanks so much everyone for all the information it has been so helpful as I am young I want all the information I can get !
03-12-2013 15:51 #20
Cycle 1 - OHSS so cancelled before EPU
Cycle 2 - 9 eggs, 4 mature and fertilised. Only 1 made it to day 5 so 1 transferred. BFP now 13 months old and putting vegemite all over my walls lol.
Best of luck to you
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