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    Quote Originally Posted by grooviechic35 View Post
    But there is a big difference between illegal and legal.

    Yes people still abuse legal forms such as alcohol and prescriptions.
    But if you are knowingly doing something illegal then I think it's different
    Not by much but still different
    The difference is that it's the mothers choice what she does with her own body. (With baby or not) If someone else injures her/abuses her etc. then it's different, and definitely a criminal act.

    PS sorry might have quoted the wrong post... My quoting/typing is all going funny it's bizarre

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    I'm sure the same questions and concerns would have been raised when introducing manslaughter laws, dangerous driving occasioning death, gbh etc..

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    I think this law is absolutely horrifying, for the reasons many have already stated. Laws get twisted constantly, and how can they ensure this one won't? Terrifying.

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    Actually, this both gives women a lot of power and has the potential to take it away. I can't fathom how that would have happened when manslaughter and dangerous driving laws were introduced.

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    I'm not worried. The law only applies to when something happens against the mothers wishes.- everything else is hysteria and people reading too much into things.

    I don't think this law will be used to penalize a pregnant women who falls down a flight of stairs accidentally. I don't think it would be used to penalize a pregant lady who skulls a whole bottle of scotch either - but if it did then good.

    The law doesn't apply to abortion. An amendment would be needed for this to occur and I doubt that would ever get passed through parliament. That being said I don't think tightening laws on late term abortion (to only if the mother/bubs life was at risk) would be such a bad thing...

    I can't understand the hysteria surrounding this law. There are heaps worse things happening in this world than people trying to stop babies, many of whom could potentially survive outside the womb, from being killed.

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    I can totally understand people wanting the death of an unborn child recognised in some way- I cannot even imagine the heartbreak. But I don't think this law is the answer to that. It opens too many doors that lead to a place where women are not in control of their bodies.

    To the pp who said mums taking illegal drugs should be punished- look at it this way- drug addiction is recognised as a disease. Rehab is not always affordable or accessible. You are talking about punishing mothers for what may be beyond their control, women who often aren't even in their right mind. Yet the woman doing something legal yet risky- say she eats sushi, drinks red bull and cleans cat litter every day while eating a Brie sandwich- she may damage or kill her baby through her actions too- where does it end? What about a pregnant woman that walks up slippery stairs and falls? The woman that drank heavily until she was 20 weeks because she didn't know she was preg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I'm not worried. The law only applies to when something happens against the mothers wishes.- everything else is hysteria and people reading too much into things.

    I don't think this law will be used to penalize a pregnant women who falls down a flight of stairs accidentally. I don't think it would be used to penalize a pregant lady who skulls a whole bottle of scotch either - but if it did then good.

    The law doesn't apply to abortion. An amendment would be needed for this to occur and I doubt that would ever get passed through parliament. That being said I don't think tightening laws on late term abortion (to only if the mother/bubs life was at risk) would be such a bad thing...

    I can't understand the hysteria surrounding this law. There are heaps worse things happening in this world than people trying to stop babies, many of whom could potentially survive outside the womb, from being killed.
    Do you know much about Fred Nile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Do you know much about Fred Nile?
    He's a religious fruit loop..

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    I never really use the phrase, "Slippery slope..."


    ...but, I kinda feel like I could use it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    I can totally understand people wanting the death of an unborn child recognised in some way- I cannot even imagine the heartbreak. But I don't think this law is the answer to that. It opens too many doors that lead to a place where women are not in control of their bodies.

    To the pp who said mums taking illegal drugs should be punished- look at it this way- drug addiction is recognised as a disease. Rehab is not always affordable or accessible. You are talking about punishing mothers for what may be beyond their control, women who often aren't even in their right mind. Yet the woman doing something legal yet risky- say she eats sushi, drinks red bull and cleans cat litter every day while eating a Brie sandwich- she may damage or kill her baby through her actions too- where does it end? What about a pregnant woman that walks up slippery stairs and falls? The woman that drank heavily until she was 20 weeks because she didn't know she was preg?
    I think people hide behind "it's recognised as a disease"... When u start doing drugs u know they r addictive and illegal.... No one forces u to do it unless u r a child of a kidnapped child sex ring. Doubt a lot of women are apart of that. But they CHOOSE to do it. Regardless of consequence
    And women who slip on stairs is not the same thing. That is an accident...


 

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