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    Default Wakefield says he will debate the MMR vax in public, and then refuses to debate with

    a doctor who has written two books on the subject!

    Surprising? I wonder why, if he truly believes what he is saying would he not debate a willing participant?


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    Mike Fitzpatrick calls Andrew Wakefield’s bluff. Wakefield moves goalposts

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    As recently noted here at Left Brain/Right Brain, Andrew Wakefield asked to debate someone about the MMR vaccine. In specific, he wrote:

    The more light that shone on this subject by way of informed, balanced debate, the better. I am offering to debate any serious challenger on MMR vaccine safety and the role of MMR in autism, live, in public, and televised.

    Dr Michael Fitzpatrick wrote in Andrew Wakefield: return of the wicked witch, Wakefield’s MMR-autism nonsense had a baleful influence on public health, but he doesn’t bear sole responsibility for recent measles outbreaks. that he would take Mr. Wakefield’s challenge.

    As both a GP and a parent of an autistic son who had followed the destructive consequences of Wakefield’s campaign over the past 15 years, I for one would welcome the opportunity to challenge his baleful influence. Are you ready for a debate now, Andrew Wakefield?

    As you might surmise from the wording above, Dr. Fitzpatrick has previously attempted to debate Mr. Wakefield and offered to engage in a full debate:

    Wakefield has subsequently restricted his public appearances to conferences of sympathetic parents, anti-vaccination activists and promoters of quack autism therapies. When I asked him a question from the floor at one such conference in Bournemouth in February 2007, he simply refused to answer, deferring to another platform speaker. When I offered to debate with him at a follow-up conference in March 2009, the organisers refused.

    How has Mr. Wakefield responded?

    What I’m suggesting is a formal scientific debate in public in front of an audience that is televised. And specifically Dr David Salisbury I would like to debate you because I believe you are at the heart of this matter. I believe the decisions taken by you and by your committee, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, lie at the heart of this matter.

    Yes, having had his bluff called, Andrew Wakefield moves the goalposts. He won’t take on Mike Fitzpatrick. He won’t take on “any serious challenger”. Only Dr. David Salisbury.

    In addition to lacking integrity, Mr. Wakefield now shows that he lacks courage.

    Mike Fitzpatrick is a physician. He is an autism parent. He has written two books on autism: MMR and Autism: What Parents Need to Know and Defeating Autism: A Damaging Delusion. Hard to find a more “serious challenger”.

    Hundreds of children are suffering from measles in the U.K.. This isn’t the time for empty offers of debate. This isn’t the time for publicity stunts. It’s time to own your mistakes and do what you can to fix the problems you helped create. Do you have that courage, Andrew Wakefield?


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    I can't believe this guy is even around still. I feel embarrassed for him!

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    I saw Andrew Wakefield present at a conference in the UK in 2008, he was sponsored to go over and present by an autism agency which is very anti-vaxx. I went along out of professional curiosity.

    He is an extremely charismatic and engaging presenter. I can totally see why people believe him when he talks, he is one suave character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    I saw Andrew Wakefield present at a conference in the UK in 2008, he was sponsored to go over and present by an autism agency which is very anti-vaxx. I went along out of professional curiosity.

    He is an extremely charismatic and engaging presenter. I can totally see why people believe him when he talks, he is one suave character.
    Scary. What is it they say about charisma and narcissism....

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    Makes sense, Jim Jones was charismatic too, as was Charles Manson and any other cult leader. It is a similar thing, a non questioning following type thing.


 

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