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    I still check driveways/car seats/etc for DS and he's 7!! I know I'm not perfect and mistakes can happen very quickly and easily so I always like to double check everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    Despite VP's (typical) hard line stance, I agree with her that driving with extreme fatigue is extremely dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. It IS as dangerous as being under the influence, and while I can see that for some people there really isn't any other option, for many there most certainly would be options. Too many people think it's unavoidable, when many times it is. I don't want to be on the road with ANYONE whose driving is impaired, I don't actually care what your reasons are. It frightens me that people are saying 'I don't know how I got home (haha)' nope it's not a funny joke, it's not something to shrug your shoulders over. If you're that tired you look at every other option before getting in your car.
    Well said.

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    A hint I heard recently to remind you that your child is in the car is to put your handbag in the backseat with them. Or carry a stuffed toy in the car that sits on the passenger seat when the kids are with you and in the car seat when you don't have them. It does rely on you being awake enough to move the toy to the proper place though.

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    Double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    I still check driveways/car seats/etc for DS and he's 7!! I know I'm not perfect and mistakes can happen very quickly and easily so I always like to double check everything.
    Same!

    The stories I've heard where a child has been accidentally left in a car have been a result of a change in the ordinary routine, not fatigue. Eg. The parent wasn't normally the one to drop the child at daycare, or something else, a distraction that disrupted the regular routine has caused the parent to simply forget. Honestly, I've watched episodes of air crash investigation where pilots have made similar disastrous mistakes due to a minor, seemingly insignificant disruption or change to the pre-flight checklists. It's documented by psychologists the way the human brain can in a way, go into autopilot, even when there's two people involved (pilot and co-pilot).

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    Yeah i don't think fatigue is the cause of autopilot. Habit is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    Yeah i don't think fatigue is the cause of autopilot. Habit is.
    Habit and distraction/not paying attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Habit and distraction/not paying attention?
    I don't think habit means you aren't paying attention. Just you are so used to doing something in a particular way you do it automatically.

    It's like driving a car that is different to yours and the blinkers are on the opposite side. Turning on the wipers instead of a blinker doesn't mean you aren't paying attention to the road and the conditions around you, just that you are used to your blinker being on a particular side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    I don't think habit means you aren't paying attention. Just you are so used to doing something in a particular way you do it automatically.

    It's like driving a car that is different to yours and the blinkers are on the opposite side. Turning on the wipers instead of a blinker doesn't mean you aren't paying attention to the road and the conditions around you, just that you are used to your blinker being on a particular side.
    Interesting analogy (the blinkers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Interesting analogy (the blinkers).
    Touché, VP, touché.


 

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