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    Default Importing Donor Sperm and Options

    Hi,

    We've recently found out the only way for us to conceive is via donor sperm, which is fine by us. Specialist said there's no point in trying IVF with the ICSI even with the whole testicle biopsy thing (they kind of come out dead or way too chilled out) as my other half's sperm quality isn't good.


    So I was just wondering if anyone's had any experience with importing donor sperm. We live in Victoria and surprisingly there's no donors that we're willing to accept, and importing is not possible, due to state restrictions.


    However! We've found Canberra being absolutely awesome with importing donor sperm with the Sperm bank in the States called Xylex, which they order on a monthly basis and shipping is spread out with the people who have ordered. The lady there says shipping using ends up being around US$150.


    The other company that they have dealt with is California Cryobank, which is a bit more appealing to us with their donor profile availability. However, we cop all the costs unless there's someone else that you do a joint shipment with as well.


    We've done the IUI with our specialist (Bendigo, VIC) and it's with my partner's sperm, and the best thing about it is he charges us only $100 each cycle. We're not loaded, but we'd like to reduce our cost as much as possible, and the Canberra Clinic will charge $1500-1800 for the artificial insemination.


    My question is, does anyone happen to know the legislation of say importing the sperm to Canberra to the fertility clinic, travelling there, then transport it to our fertility clinic we use in VIC (Monash IVF), so that our specialist can do the IUI instead? We'd be saving a whole lot of money!


    Any pointers would be heaps appreciated! Sorry about the long winded story and not getting to the point!


    Thank you again in advance!


    Cheers,
    Ashley

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    I'd be getting a second opinion on using your partners sperm. Does he produce any? If you were getting enough for an IUI cycle, you would definitely have enough for IVF/ICSI. Directing you straight to donor sounds like seriously bad advice to me.

    If you are going to go down the donor route I wouldn't be wasting it by doing an IUI cycle. It is too precious for the success rate of IUI.

    I don't know anything about Vic legislation, but I would think they wouldn't be able to do what you are suggesting (but I could be wrong on that). You might have to stick with the Canberra clinic for the cycle.

    Also all the prices you are quoting seem unbelievably low. I am not aware of anyone who charges so little for IUI. The shipping costs also seem way too low.

    Be aware that not all donors on the American sites meet the Australian legislative requirements. All donors used in Australia must agree to be contactable once the child reaches 18 years old. Also no donor used in Australia can be paid.

    Most clinics also require you do undertake counselling before using donor. Even if they don't require it I would highly recommend that you undertake counselling, this decision is actually a huge one and should not be considered lightly (and economic factors of the treatment should be one of the lowest priorities you have).

    Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but having personal experience of this I find you post a little naive and I would recommend you look further into the options available to you.

    There are a few other threads on the forum regarding donor, which I highly recommend.

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    Hi DJ Nette,

    Thank you heaps for your advice! Sorry for coming across naive in this post, but what you've said is not harsh at all! Comments and word of advice is more than welcome. I might just trying to explain a few more things in detail though just to clarify myself.

    My partner does produce sperm, but why our specialist has told us the ICSI would unlikely be successful is because of his sperm. We've had karotyping done on him already plus semen analysis and the rest of the she-bang. Basically:
    1) He produces too little semen volume <1.0mL
    2) He has a very low count that even the laboratories struggled to his sperm and they thought it was a post vasectomy sample. His sperm were dead on arrival, we've done the testing twice and had same results. They couldn't find any motile swimmers. They were there though!
    3) We found out he's got some genetic abnormalities that renders his sperm not viable via karotyping and supported by his semen analysis. Basically it forms the sperm, but no content and non-motile. Can't remember the exact scientific wording.

    We've done 3 IUIs and did it at the doctor's practice rather than at the IVF clinic/lab which was why it costs less. After the first go and it was unsuccessful and I've been in the clear, as in I've got no abnormalities and fertile, he said we'll investigate, just incase. So the result was that was the case of what I mentioned above.

    I think you might be right with sticking with the Canberra clinic indeed, I've spoken to the lady and said that's the case. The shipping cost ended up being cheap because of the shared cost. Normally if we were to do it ourselves, the cost would be around USD$600-700, excluding the tank which is another US$500, but because this clinic does a monthly shipment from the same company in the States, the tank gets returned, and the shipping cost is shared by 4-5 couples/people trying to conceive using donor sperm. However, the donor sperm themselves would cost heaps around US$800 or a bit more and that's with the ID disclosure and complaint with Australian regulations that's applicable to ACT.

    Speaking of counselling, we've got ours booked in next week, so fingers crossed it all works out.

    We were kind of prepared for this situation which started over 5 years ago, as we knew we wanted 6 kids: 2 of our own, 2 adopted, 2 donor sperm/eggs. We didn't foresee the death of my partner's sperm though We have already come to terms with it. So hopefully there shouldn't be any surprises during the counselling session.

    It may seem a bit trivial, but money-wise. I'm the only one that has an income. My partner is trying to get his business up and running, so he stays home to focus, which ends up being convenient for him as he was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis 3 years ago. So the toilet is not too far away for him! We've got a very tight budget to work on, which is why we're a bit focus on that. We don't want to go into debt, and we're not willing to owe anyone money. So no credit cards/loan/etc. I don't earn a lot at all, we've saved as much as we could just incase something like this happens, and it has happened. Basically we've budgeted $8,000 as our threshold for IVF and it is all we can afford. That includes all our travelling expenses if required as well.

    Like everyone here they'd just like children of their own.

    Hopefully that sheds a bit of light on our situation.

    Do you reckon we should still get a second opinion? I just don't want to get into the whole situation where someone will say, "OH IVF will definitely work with our clinic" and we've just thrown away most/all the money we could have used on a donor sperm, which we will then not be able to afford.

    Cheers,
    Ashley

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    Hi Ashley

    Just wondering how you went with your donor search and importing process? I read your story and am going through a similar situation. I wanted to import from cyrobank myself.

    Very curious to see wherr your at.

    Thanks

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    Hi everyone
    i know this is an older post but I was wondering what clinics allow you to import from Xytex? I’ve contacted a few and having great difficulty finding any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac8508 View Post
    Hi everyone
    i know this is an older post but I was wondering what clinics allow you to import from Xytex? I’ve contacted a few and having great difficulty finding any.
    IVF Australia Canberra clinic imports from Xytex.


 

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