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    Quote Originally Posted by grooviechic35 View Post
    Sorry I meant don't have children
    Even so, they still have the ability to experience it. Whether or not they choose to is up to them. I'd say even just knowing what period pain can be like would put them in a more qualified place to comment... But a childless woman with that same opinion as Trev's would really run me the wrong way too.

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    I wasn't aware that a water birth was considered 'taking the easy way out'

    He has not personally birthed a child and will never be able to, so I don't think his opinion is valid on this subject.

    He can have his say, but yeah...whatever buddy

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    No, absolutely not. In fact, I don't think anyone has a right to tell others what their preference should be for their own experiences. Nothing to do with others.

    The circumcision and vasectomy are good examples. I couldn't imagine telling someone to man up and do them naturally because I know what they experience. Nonsense.

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    It sure is an experience, Trev! I would have enjoyed my precious bundles a heck of a lot more if I was free of pain, not slipping into unconsciousness and with them for their first couple of hours of life (well outside the womb life).

    Anyone can have an opinion on anything. It usually helps if you've actually experienced 'anything' before offering said opinion though.

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    How horrible that the hospital is no longer offering water births, that's really unfortunate for women who were planning on a water birth.

    I had a water birth & it was a truly amazing birth experience, I had no drugs... But I think the water played a huge role in that.

    I think this guy is naive to think that a water birth isn't natural, as in most cases it is a HUGE reason why women are able to go without drugs... & I think his comments show his lack of knowledge on the subject.

    Do I think he has a right to comment? No. Do I think any male has the right to comment on child birth or breast feeding? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degrassi View Post
    I wasn't aware that a water birth was considered 'taking the easy way out'

    He has not personally birthed a child and will never be able to, so I don't think his opinion is valid on this subject.

    He can have his say, but yeah...whatever buddy
    I have had both a land and water birth, and can safely say that the water birth still hurt a lot...

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    Yeah I don't really get his calling a "land" birth more natural than a "water" birth... whatevs, Trev. Also hate his terminology that he delivered two babies... hmm, presumably your partner, y'know the one actually pushing the babies out of her body, did a bit more of the work...

    And to answer the question, no I do not believe a man's opinion is valid, I believe he should support the woman's (hopefully informed) choices whatever the heck they are, provide emotional and physical support if asked, and that's about it.

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    I think 'trev' is a brave man to put his opinion forward and sharing his vast expeirence in childbirthing matters. I suppose everyone is allowed to comment, and perhaps he was asked, but really I don't think it carries much weight. Marie.

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    For me a waterbirth was more about having privacy and feeling protected after an awful first labour than actual pain relief. And also so helpful in preventing tearing.

    i can't find anywhere in Brisbane aside from the birth centre ( in the ballot for it) where I can have another wb. Public or private! Can anyone help me find somewhere? It is such a beautiful way to deliver.

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